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TOPIC: Can you be forced to go to a job club?

Can you be forced to go to a job club? 12 Jul 2018 16:08 #9261

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So what I read from Searchers link and quote this:

5. The Secretary of State’s representative before the Upper Tribunal has accepted that the proposed changes to the agreement were not reasonable. Her argument is that the purpose of an agreement is to set out details of jobseeking. It is not a proper part of that agreement to include ‘sanctionable activities’. The representative has submitted that the appropriate way to impose a condition to open an account, if that was considered necessary, was to give a direction under section 19A of the Jobseekers Act 1995. Moreover, it was not appropriate to vary the agreement by imposing a requirement to attend a Skills Conditionality Scheme. The proper course was to refer the claimant to the scheme under regulation 3(7) of the Jobseeker's Allowance (Schemes for Assisting Persons to Obtain Employment) Regulations 2013 (SI No 276).

Is that this person had an `activity` added to their jobseekers agreement and was sanctioned because they refuse to open a UJM account. The upper tribunal decided that by not doing so, it was not detrimental to that persons job seeking activities or actions and was therefor, not a sanctionable offence. But what it does show, is job centre work coaches cannot add these actions to a JS agreement or a CC stating it is a sanctionable task if not carried out, when it is not.

We as mere jobseekers though are manipulated into thinking these actions and tasks are actionable and incur sanctions if they are not carried out. It`s not until that sanction is applied that we learn the truth. But it also shows that these actions are not properly referred by the correct directions and are instead added to a claimants CC to either save time, or to dupe the claimant.
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Can you be forced to go to a job club? 15 Jul 2018 14:18 #9328

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archangel wrote:
Will going to a job club make JCP staff lay off trying to pressure you into bending over backwards to look for non-existent jobs or trying to force you on to various work schemes? In other words, can it be used as a way to avoid JCP staff hassling you? If so, I'll start going to one.

By the way, at job clubs do you have to apply for jobs, and what will happen if you don't?

It could do depending on what your current roach is like archangel, i go when asked as they are always local to me and reclaim bus fare, spend three hrs there and straight out into pub for a late bit of lunch and a few beers.

Better to show willing than to step straight into the argumentative lions den with something as low grade as this so to speak.

You dont have to apply to any unless you realize your coach knows companies that are in attendance would be relevant to your skills set etc if so they will be asking questions no doubt.



Comply wrote:We as mere jobseekers though are manipulated into thinking these actions and tasks are actionable and incur sanctions if they are not carried out. It`s not until that sanction is applied that we learn the truth. But it also shows that these actions are not properly referred by the correct directions and are instead added to a claimants CC to either save time, or to dupe the claimant.

Above all very true, they seem to get off on misleading people being difficult with them in any way they can find, wrong telephone numbers, badly printed stationery, changing appointment times just for the hell of it asking you to attend totally irrelevant courses and interviews all political ideological bullshit.
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