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How to record activity now UJM is closing 26 Jun 2018 13:39 #8976

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Have you got a link to the document that says this?

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/222611/response/551475/attach/3/4c.Annex%201.pdf
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 26 Jun 2018 15:45 #8980

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Hello Catwoman,

Did you log your complaint about that scumbag provider company,if so can you update us all on how this is proceeding if possible ?

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I didn't complain about provider ingenus because as far as they were concerned I attended their appointment voluntarily. So my contact with them has finished.
It's when I got my new wc that all the abuse and threats started because I didn't sign providers paperwork. Not once during this time has the jobcentre contacted provider ingenus.

I did complain about my new work coach and her floor manager.(who had the cheek to tell me if I got a job I would have more money for drinking, and my tax pays your £73.)
Since I complained my treatment has been different, they are now walking on eggshells around me, i'm still with the wc, but she barley can look at me let alone speak to me and she is clearly biting her tongue as she knows I will complain about her if I don't like how she is talking to me.
My last sign on appointment lasted 3 minutes, wc signed me on and didn't speak to me, which is the best appointment you can hope for.

I believe I won this battle. :-) B)
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 26 Jun 2018 15:57 #8981

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Well done!
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 26 Jun 2018 16:30 #8984

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Well done again. Brilliant result. A bit daunting to start with but worth it in the long run.
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 26 Jun 2018 16:42 #8985

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Catwoman wrote: I did complain about my new work coach and her floor manager.(who had the cheek to tell me if I got a job I would have more money for drinking, and my tax pays your £73.)

Pity you didn`t have a phone recorder on when she said this or you could have had grounds for malicious behaviour or breaking their code of conduct. As it is, it`s their word against ours. Good outcome for you Catwoman, it takes guts to stand your ground, but I think most of us when cornered would do the same.
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 03 Jul 2018 15:09 #9102

Signed on today, once more giving a verbal explanation of my job search activity and no questions were asked. All quite bizarre really, I was expecting to be asked for some kind of evidence (knowing her from before as being one of the more hard-nosed vicious work roaches), though I did tell her I have email confirmations of jobs applied should she need any evidence. But nope, she said that's totally fine and booked my next appointment in 2 weeks. I was in and out of there in less than 5 minutes. My usual work roach is still off "sick" so I'm with yet another different roach, who is unfamiliar to me, next appointment.
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In and out in 5 minutes are the best appointments :cheer:
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 03 Jul 2018 18:35 #9107

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When you say `verbal` Tarquin, do you mean you write/print your work search out and read it back to the coach? To remind yourself (by date) what you applied for and the outcomes? Or do you mean you have a mensa memory! :lol:

These quick sessions usually mean the coach is in a hurry or something is brewing in the background. :dry:
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 03 Jul 2018 19:00 #9109

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When you say `verbal` Tarquin, do you mean you write/print your work search out and read it back to the coach?
No, I just tell them I look for jobs on certain sites such as Indeed, CV-Library and apply accordingly, and have email confirmations each time. If I were to write/print out my work search then I'd just show them that instead! They always ask "how's the job search going?" so I just tell them it's going fine. If pushed for further info then I tell them I have set up email alerts from all these jobsites so that I don't miss anything, and attach relevant CV/cover letter accordingly. I think as long as they know I'm on top of things re: job searching then they leave me to my own devices. Of course I do have screenshots of jobs applied and tell them this should they need to see them, but the past 2 appointments they were happy with what I told them. Not knowing the work roach I'm seeing in 2 weeks it could be a totally different story, he could be a total bastard, but I'll try the same approach....
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 04 Jul 2018 08:46 #9110

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That`s the way it should be but it probably depends who we see and how we approach it. Meaning, if they think we are shrinking violets they will pounce, but getting it right from day one is the goal here because with UC, there seems to be the intention to sign people up to all sorts of verification and how we should apply our job search using FAJ or the UC journal. They should be satisfied that people have accounts with online job sites and can produce evidence of replies or other notifications without having to use their versions of proof.


These email alerts from job sites Tarquin, what exactly are they? Are they alerts to jobs the site knows you are looking for? So it lets you know what is available in that sector? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 04 Jul 2018 09:08 #9113

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These email alerts from job sites Tarquin, what exactly are they? Are they alerts to jobs the site knows you are looking for? So it lets you know what is available in that sector? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
You set up the alerts yourself, it's pretty straightforward and anyone registered with sites such as Indeed or totaljobs.com should be able to confirm this.
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 04 Jul 2018 10:30 #9117

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I see. What do they `alert` us to though? Newly listed jobs in the categories we are looking for? Updates of jobs we have applied to?
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 06 Jul 2018 01:11 #9170

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I have the alerts set up on indeed,CV library etc

i get alerts from indeed daily alert sends me email once a day with the below

Indeed alert
(all jobs any type of role in 10 miles from my post code are shown in a list so i can apply easily .
i use that alert for local roles because i am looking for anything to escape joke center.

2rd alert from CV library
any H&S jobs in north west etc with salary over £9.00 a hour.

alerts are ok on some sites but can be annoying from others
indeed was sending me 6 or 7 alerts a day at first but you can change that to 1 or none on indeed site etc.
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 06 Jul 2018 08:02 #9171

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Thanks blackbeard, that explains what I was asking. Can these alerts be turned off? I can see how they would be an asset if they were alerting us to local jobs that we might miss otherwise.
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 06 Jul 2018 08:56 #9174

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Can these alerts be turned off?
You have the option to how frequently you get the alerts, daily or weekly, I have mine set to daily. You can set several alerts for either weekly or daily, based on what kind of work you're looking for and which area you're in. You can also set to get daily recommended jobs, several of which usually aren't that suitable, but now and again you'll find something listed which could interest you. You can also set to only receive emails that you've specifically asked for, and not get any "marketing communications" which is more or less spam. Once you have set up your specific alerts you can then either edit, delete or pause them.

Maybe you should start up a thread enquiring about setting up email alerts, CoD, as this thread is now getting somewhat derailed? Though once you're registered with these sites it's so simple to set up, maybe not!

To get back on topic, how is everyone else who previously used UJM now presenting their job search activity to their work roaches...? One roach the other week mentioned I could show my job applications on my smart phone, until I said to her not everybody has smart phones and mine is so basic I don't even connect to the internet with it.
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 06 Jul 2018 10:16 #9180

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Thanks Tarquin, appreciate your response.
Tarquin wrote: To get back on topic, how is everyone else who previously used UJM now presenting their job search activity to their work roaches...?

Good point. We should all be posting experiences on this since UJM closed because everyone can learn from it.
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 06 Jul 2018 10:36 #9181

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Well, I still keep all details privately online. Good for looking up details, location etc if phoned ot offered interview.

For job centre. I have an old hardback diary. First page, I wrote what I usually do everyday. Indeed, Reed, CV Library etc.
Then Daily, I write down basic details of jobs applied for .... 2 to 3 sides per fortnight..

So far, just flashed the closed book, occasionally casually open it so they can see the writing. They have never asked to really look at it yet.
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Just for paying a few bills! That's out of proportion...
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 06 Jul 2018 11:47 #9182

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So far, just flashed the closed book, occasionally casually open it so they can see the writing. They have never asked to really look at it yet.
Heh, if I were to offer my evidence in my handwriting it'd give them nightmares! I can write neatly if needed but when I used the old ES4JP form it was such a scrawl the look on the roaches face trying to decipher what I'd written was always a pleasure to behold! I'm surprised they haven't offered that form (I assume it's still in use?) to me the past few weeks...
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How to record activity now UJM is closing 06 Jul 2018 17:20 #9187

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I always have written and a list of my confirmation emails ready, but for around 6 months wc have just asked for what I've done and they haven't asked for evidence.

Also my wc asked uf I've signed up for faj, I told her I have, but it's not got much on it. I asked wc does she think more jobs will be added in futre when its been around for longer and she replied you can use any website you want it doesn't have to be faj, some websites are better than others you don't have to rely on just one.
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comply or die wrote:
I see. What do they `alert` us to though? Newly listed jobs in the categories we are looking for? Updates of jobs we have applied to?


These job sites will scroll through your CV comply skills etc what sectors you work in or have worked in and send you daily or weekly vacancies the site thinks will be of interest to you you.

Choose how and when they send you this stuff unlike that bag of crap UJM when once signed up every job was a good one and god help you if you didn't apply for it.
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