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62 year-old woman forced to give up her home after missing a benefits meeting 10 Nov 2018 14:47 #10955

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A 62-year-old woman claims she’s been forced to leave her home after the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) docked her benefits for turning up late for a meeting.

Faith Hurford, from Hillesley near Stroud, who suffers with a range of medical conditions that haven’t been disclosed, says the benefit sanction means she is unable to afford the rent and has to move away from her home because of the DWP’s cruel decision.

The Stroud News and Journal reports that in spite of her health problems, Faith had to travel a staggering 15 miles (one way) to attend a meeting about her Universal Credit claim in Stroud.

Due to heat, the sheer distance she had to cycle, as well as her chronic health issues, Faith was forced to stop and take a break at a Sainbury’s store to recover her energy, before continuing the arduous journey.

This meant that Faith turned up late for the appointment and was subsequently sanctioned for failing to turn up for the meeting on time.

welfareweekly.com/62-year-old-woman-forced-to-give-up-her-home-after-missing-a-benefits-meeting/
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62 year-old woman forced to give up her home after missing a benefits meeting 11 Nov 2018 07:16 #10965

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Totally DISGUSTING Finnster :evil: Hopefully the main stream media will get hold of this story and give it some really good press coverage.

They need to look into this seriously as is already posted on this forum and on web etc 'the housing benefit of UC' should not be stopped .

I am thinking this poor woman has been left to rot.Do things all by herself with no one to advise her. A crying shame.

This is totally unacceptable.

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62 year-old woman forced to give up her home after missing a benefits meeting 11 Nov 2018 09:29 #10966

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Trouble is, the words - `she had to cycle to` and `chronic health issues` will be put together questioning if she has these chronic problems, why is she able to get on a bike? If this was me, I would have been on the phone to the office dealing with my claim asking them to fix this over the phone, or to allow me to go to a jobcentre closer to my home? It could be that she uses a bike to travel locally, but in this case, it may have been easier for her to use the bus? Or to tell this job centre about the mobility problems she has? Something here has fallen foul but Universal Credit means people have to attend their job centre to verify themselves sadly. BUT, there should be safeguards in place for this sort of problem which no doubt will happen to many others.
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62 year-old woman forced to give up her home after missing a benefits meeting 11 Nov 2018 10:34 #10972

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I can understand her feeling forced in to riding that bike despite her health problems as I myself have a bit of a heart problem and suffer from occasional angina attacks and I have had days where I have had to talk over 1 mile to my job centre coz lack of funds despite the fact my angina is playing up because I'm afraid of losing my benefits I am forced in to a situation where I am putting my life in danger :angry:
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62 year-old woman forced to give up her home after missing a benefits meeting 11 Nov 2018 12:45 #10975

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Exactly Finnster. I get flustered if I have any upcoming appointments too and never know what state I`m going to be in on that day to attend. From a personal perspective, I would hope that the work coaches I have seen know me and because I`m on ESA (at the moment) I know I can call my job centre, explain my situation and ask to speak to one of the staff who has seen me before and ask for my appointment to be re-arranged. I`ve done this twice in the past and they have been fine with it. If they refused they would be in the s**t because I could easily back up why I couldn`t attend.

I would say to everyone in such a predicament to do the same where possible but always be prepared for the unknown.
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62 year-old woman forced to give up her home after missing a benefits meeting 11 Nov 2018 13:03 #10978

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I'm not sure how phoning and rearranging my appointments would work I suspect they would make me use a period of sickness as I'm only on JSA, thankfully my angina isn't too bad I usual only have it come on 1-2 days every month or two so it dosent affect me for the most part only ever had that one time I had to go through that situation :(

scum bags relay aught to be paying travel expenses for us so this kind of thing wasn't an issue :angry:
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62 year-old woman forced to give up her home after missing a benefits meeting 12 Nov 2018 07:57 #10987

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I'm not sure how phoning and rearranging my appointments would work I suspect they would make me use a period of sickness as I'm only on JSA, thankfully my angina isn't too bad I usual only have it come on 1-2 days every month or two so it dosent affect me for the most part only ever had that one time I had to go through that situation :(

scum bags relay aught to be paying travel expenses for us so this kind of thing wasn't an issue :angry:

Finnster maybe worth a line to your joke shop manager ,district manager and MP regard to the issues you are having.Travel costs your overall health and ask this question.Where are they taking into consideration your health.Why haven't they advised you on any help on travel costs.There are some FOI's on web regards to travel costs joke shop etc.

If you didn't already know this,theirs a form you can get from hospital for all NHS appointments.

Your angina should also be put on their records as to this could be a serious indicator as to what 'types' of work you maybe able to do.
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62 year-old woman forced to give up her home after missing a benefits meeting 12 Nov 2018 10:06 #10995

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already done jobber all my health issues are in there system as well as a multitude of restrictions like hours of availability how many hours I'm prepared to work how far I'm willing to travel and what type of jobs I consider to be unsuitable for me.
I have so many restrictions on my claim they cant fit them all on there LMS system and have a note referring them to a paper copy of my restrictions

its kinda annoying and funny at the same time when I get a new work roach who wants to challenge me and start getting me to apply for random jobs and I just keep saying no :evil:

it was difficult to get all those restrictions in place i had to fight tooth and nail with lieing job centre staff members telling me I'm not allowed to do that had to go to CAB and redo my letters send in multiple complains had two meetings with my job centres manager and disability work advisor's
even one year latter an uppity roach had an issue with my restrictions and made an allegation that I was intentionally making myself unemployable :(
that one was funny she stood up went over to the manager had a short conversation could see the manager took one look at me shook his head and she came back looking somewhat dejected and embarrassed :P
That manager will not forget me in a hurry i gave him soooooo much shit :evil:
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"already done jobber all my health issues are in there system as well as a multitude of restrictions like hours of availability how many hours I'm prepared to work how far I'm willing to travel and what type of jobs I consider to be unsuitable for me."

Well done Finnster, me too.Although for some mysterious reason they find this information hard to retain both in their minds and on their system which has been my experience.Over the past 2 years have had to show them many fit notes and to add things to their system. One day they have the next their talking to me as though i have no relevant health problems at all.One day they will get a system all in one place that communicates correct up-to-date info.I feel they just use this as a way to indirectly intimidate people asking them over and over again the same bloody questions.I know others draw out a letter template in place for when this parrot fashion inquisition happens.

Dont suppose you could send me a letter template by pm Finnster? I will almost certainly need one for myself as they just dont get it. :whistle: :evil:



"That manager will not forget me in a hurry i gave him soooooo much shit :evil:" Oh YES!! Absolutely love that Finnster.A1 :) :cheer: :lol:

]"even one year latter an uppity roach had an issue with my restrictions and made an allegation that I was intentionally making myself unemployable"Now this is VERY interesting Finnster and something i will personally be looking for if these plank's come to making any false accusations of that type with me. :whistle: :) :evil:
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I'm not sure I have a digital copy of it atm as I have most of this stuff in my big red folder of doom (yes I named it :P ) i might have a copy in my emails I will take a look later it will be difficult to find as I drafted it up about 3 years ago.
and yeah they do have a habit of losing this information and forgetting it they recently lost the paper copy of mine when they closed my old job centre down its a good thing i take my big red folder with me every time I sign on :evil:
its a pain to carry in every time but I do love it when I can pull out the guidance on sanction and watch there face as there asehole tightens up :evil:
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Cheers Finnster, dont worry if you cant find it but would be real helpful if you can. ;) :)

Sounds to me you did an outstanding job on joke shop with all this. :)

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62 year-old woman forced to give up her home after missing a benefits meeting 12 Nov 2018 10:46 #11000

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Giving me a little chuckle anyway TheFinnster. Gd work and it gives a little comfort to no im not the only one who has to do this JSA lark. I have a 40 min appointmet wednesday and am dreading it. Not with my usual advisor but with someone who can see how else they can help me get into work is how my advisor dressed it up. Been jotting down notes as why i struggle and what types of work i apply for to help me when i go in there.This appointment was meant to happen some time ago but the so called helpful advisor was off.
As to this poor lady cycling to her appointment in fear of being sanctioned for missing the appointment its a bloody disgrace like so many things in this country at present. The so called safety net for people has well and truly dissapeared and unless your living it or working with people facing the challenges you are probably oblivious as others are to busy trying to work and keep there heads above water.
A crooked goverment where the rich get richer. All ready conceded my life is game over but thank goodness im not a youngster.
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An incredibly good thing to add your health conditions is learning difficulties real or imagined for example in my case i genuinely have dyslexia and discalculia as any of you who know me well can see by my posts when i don't have my spellchecker working :P
but as a disability on your claim commitments it can be an incredibly powerful weapon against them for example when they try to bring a job up on there screen and say of this looks good for you why don't you have a look and apply for that
i turn around and tell them i would need ot take some time and read over it I have dyslexia and reading this stuff takes me time and i have allot of health considerations I need to take in to account and think over if it is suitable for me or not
some will say that's ok take your time or even attempt ot read it out for me i play up on how uncomfortable and self concious this is all making me feel and I tell them I don't want to do it i get pissy with them for drawing attention to my disablitys and tell them to give me the link and ill look it up latter but I don't commit to applying for anything
or when they ask why I haven't applied for many jobs over the last two weeks and i tell them how my learning difficulties make doing job searches much more difficult for me than the average claimant.
it only makes it all the more funny when i pull out some guidance and start schooling them on there job :lol:

powerful stuff indeed :evil:
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This discussion just reminds us all that we need to sit down with a good old fashioned pen and paper and `top to tail` ourselves from head to toe and think about where (if any) we have health problems.

Head for example: Headaches - how often? eyesight issues? speech and/or hearing issues? dyslexia, neurological problems, etc....
Upper Body example: Arm/shoulder issues like pain, muscluloskeletal problems, lifting your arms above your head? holding a pen? Neck pain? do you have restrictions in these areas? Types of arthritis? Mobility restrictions caused by?

Just some examples of explaining what your limitations are, but more importantly, what they STOP you from doing daily. You don`t need to be claiming ESA (or Limited Capability for Work under UC) to have restrictions agreed to on your JSA agreement or CC. The activities and jobs we do should be tailored to us to reflect these problems and once they are, we stay mindful at each meeting we have with a work coach just incase, as Finnster said, they try to overlook your problems as minor.
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