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Yet Another Outrage by Our Police 04 Apr 2018 17:09 #6809

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How the Hell Can our Fascist Police Charge a 78 Year Old for Defending Himself in his own Home,
at 1 am From a Burglar with Murder, Bloody Outrage
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Pensioner, 78, is arrested on suspicion of MURDER after 'stabbing armed burglar, 38, to death in a struggle in his kitchen' when two intruders woke him as he slept next to his wife
Police called to break-in in south-east London in the early hours of this morning
The 78-year-old was 'confronted by two men and forced into his kitchen'
He is said to have tackled a 'burglar' armed with a screwdriver, who was stabbed
The pensioner has been arrested after the man, 38, later died in hospital

PUBLISHED: 10:00, 4 April 2018 | UPDATED: 16:52, 4 April 2018

A 78-year-old homeowner has been arrested by murder detectives after a suspected burglar he fought with in his own kitchen died of a stab wound.

The pensioner was upstairs asleep with his wife when he was woken by the two men breaking into his suburban home in Hither Green, south-east London last night.

He was forced into his kitchen by one of the men, who was armed with a screwdriver, before a struggle ensued.

The intruder, a 38-year-old man, was left with wounds to his chest and local residents say he collapsed in a neighbouring road and died in hospital.

The homeowner was initially detained on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm but was later arrested on suspicion of murder. The case has been compared to that of Tony Martin, who was jailed for killing an intruder at his home in 1999.

The break-in comes amid a surge in violence in the capital, with 49 people already having died in crimes in London in 2018. Last night's death brings the toll to 50.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5576905/Homeowner-78-arrested-burglar-stabbed-death-break-in.html#ixzz5BijQVUMn

Is It any Wonder the British Police are the most Hated people in Britain?
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Yet Another Outrage by Our Police 04 Apr 2018 17:26 #6811

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I only heard about this earlier on the news Paul and quite frankly, I`m shocked that someone rightly defending themselves, their wife and their property from people who were obviously intent on causing THEM harm should be treated as murder. Something obviously went wrong, but lets face it, when survival mode kicks in and someone is threatening you with a screwdriver, they ain`t there for a cup of tea and a cup cake. It`s bad enough that we can`t legally arm ourselves with a gun (as they do in the USA) but I don`t think I would want to anyway. But I would like to think that if I defended myself in the same way that I wouldn`t be seen as the bad guy.
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Yet Another Outrage by Our Police 05 Apr 2018 08:05 #6819

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Quite Agree C&D

Fury over OAP held for 'killing burglar' as neighbours insist he had every right to defend himself
Mirror Mirror
Russell Myers

Friends and neighbours have spoken out in support of the man held on suspicion of stabbing a burglar to death , saying: “He was just protecting himself.”

The 78-year-old murder suspect, named locally as Richard Osborn-Brooks, was in bed with his wife when he heard two men breaking into his house at 12.45am yesterday.

It is believed the ex-RAC manager went downstairs to investigate before one of the raiders threatened him with a screwdriver and marched him into the kitchen.

As the other was looking around upstairs, a struggle broke out and the alleged intruder, aged 38, suffered a stab wound to the upper body.

Both alleged burglars then fled the home in Hither Green, South East London, before neighbours spotted them trying to escape.

The injured man was found collapsed in a nearby street “covered in blood” after his partner tried to get him into a white getaway van.

Paramedics battled to save him but he died in a Central London hospital.

The Metropolitan Police was last night unable to confirm if the suspected burglar was wounded with the screwdriver or a knife.

The incident has echoes of the infamous case of Norfolk farmer Tony Martin, who blasted a teenage burglar to death in his home in August 1999.

One of Mr Osborn-Brooks’ friends, Tony Guest, worked with him at the RAC in Croydon during the late 1970s.

He said: “I was shocked when someone told me it was Richard involved in this incident. He has every right to protect his property, he deserves a medal.”

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www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/fury-over-oap-held-for-killing-burglar-as-neighbours-insist-he-had-every-right-to-defend-himself/ar-AAvtArK

I Note that the Story is trying to be "Covered Up" by the Powers that be;
I will be keeping a very close watch on this story.
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Yet Another Outrage by Our Police 05 Apr 2018 11:10 #6825

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Good old UK justice system always nice and fair and straight forward.

Some people putting these laws in place are far removed from the world of reality and what actually goes on in society .
If it was down to the police who attended the scene, they'd probably say all fair considering and save a fortune in court costs which will now get cracking.
More cash for the old boys network :evil: all because a homeowner uses his judgement of using "reasonable force."

The person wounded who unfortunately died, did not deserve to lose his life;but feel with the house holder being an age of 78 he would have been undoubtedly in fear for his own life and used what he believed to be reasonable force.

Someone's going to have to prove that his actions were intendedly meant to kill. Imo i dont feel that was his plan, just to leave this person in a weak enough state to protect himself.

The political "elite" will one day only wake up when something happens to one of their own.
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Yet Another Outrage by Our Police 05 Apr 2018 11:55 #6826

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jobber wrote:
The political "elite" will one day only wake up when something happens to one of their own.

With all the protections and money they have jobber, I doubt they will ever be faced with `normal` society problems. Money talks and it also means you can afford decent security and safeguards in place. They are all quite happy to stay in their ivory towers while everyone else is dealing with fear and homelessness.
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Yet Another Outrage by Our Police 05 Apr 2018 14:31 #6829

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jobber wrote:
Good old UK justice system always nice and fair and straight forward.

More cash for the old boys network :evil: all because a homeowner uses his judgement of using "reasonable force."
Someone's going to have to prove that his actions were intendedly meant to kill. Imo i dont feel that was his plan, just to leave this person in a weak enough state to protect himself.


To add to what Jobber mentioned, on the 'gov link'. But the definition of "reasonable force" seems to be a very grey area thou in the law. Mind you with all the police cutback's what choice have people but to be to be a have a Go-hero? :blink:

"You can use reasonable force to protect yourself or others if a crime is taking place inside your home.

"This means you can:
protect yourself ‘in the heat of the moment’ - this includes using an object as a weapon
stop an intruder running off - eg tackle them to the ground
There’s no specific definition of ‘reasonable force’ - it depends on the circumstances. If you only did what you honestly thought was necessary at the time, this would provide strong evidence that you acted within the law. " ".


www.gov.uk/reasonable-force-against-intruders

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43652308
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Yet Another Outrage by Our Police 06 Apr 2018 07:23 #6854

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Pensioner Richard Osborn-Brooks bailed after arrest over fatal 'burglar' stabbing
The 78-year-old has been released by police until early May as they continue to investigate the death of a 37-year-old man.


Thursday 05 April 2018

A 78-year-old arrested over the death of an intruder stabbed to death in his home has been bailed.

Named by Sky sources as Richard Osborn-Brooks, the pensioner was held at a police station on Wednesday on suspicion of murdering a suspected burglar in Hither Green, southeast London.

He has been bailed until early May pending further enquiries, Scotland Yard said.

On Thursday, Metropolitan Police detectives renewed their appeal for information over the death of an unnamed 37-year-old man.

He was found collapsed in Further Green Road, near to the South Park Crescent address where the suspected burglary took place, in the early hours of Wednesday.

He died less than three hours later at a central London hospital having sustained a stab wound to the upper body, which a post-mortem examination gave as the provisional cause of death.

A second suspect in the burglary, believed to be a white man, fled the scene prior to the arrival of police and is unaccounted for.
Osborn-Brooks had reported a burglary in progress and the injury of a man at his home in Lewisham to police.

Local residents offered their support to Osborn-Brooks in the aftermath of the suspected murder.
Adam Lake, who lives near the scene, said he did not feel safe from crime and that the pensioner was "just protecting himself".

He said: "He doesn't deserve to be punished for defending himself, and the neighbours that I've spoken to all agree that the priority needs to be to support him after everything that he's been through.

"He was just protecting himself after all."

Another neighbour, who asked not to be named, said: "He deserves a medal. You cannot break into people's houses.
"(I've heard) he's a carer, this is a pensioner that has worked all his life who wants to live and die quietly.


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news.sky.com/story/pensioner-bailed-after-arrest-over-fatal-stabbing-of-intruder-11317362
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Yet Another Outrage by Our Police 14 Apr 2018 09:27 #7021

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Dead burglar’s family warned to have respect following flower tribute dispute
Georgia Diebelius Thursday 12 Apr 2018

A senior police chief has warned the family of a burglar who was stabbed to death to ‘respect’ people at the scene of his killing.

Metropolitan Police Deputy Commissioner Sir Craig Mackey spoke out today saying he would have preferred grieving loved ones of Henry Vincent not to have laid flowers. Stabbed burglar 'to have £100,000 funeral procession which will pass pensioner's home' This week officers were forced to step in to soothe community tensions over the tributes. Mr Mackey said the intruder’s death was a ‘tragedy’ for his family but warned they should respect Hither Green residents after shrines for him were repeatedly taken down.

Mounted police were called in after friends and supporters of Richard Osborn-Brooks objected to the tributes and removed scores of floral bouquets and balloons placed outside the 78-year-old’s south-east London home yesterday. Metropolitan Police Deputy Commissioner Sir Craig Mackey spoke out today saying he would have preferred grieving loved ones of Henry Vincent not to have laid flowers.
The pensioner was arrested on suspicion of murdering 37-year-old Vincent while defending his home last week, before being released without charge. Sir Craig said Lewisham Council was considering what to do with the tributes, which included cards and a teddy bear.

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metro.co.uk/2018/04/12/dead-burglars-family-warned-respect-following-flower-tribute-dispute-7460683/
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Yet Another Outrage by Our Police 20 Apr 2018 12:33 #7122

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This has now escalated to a vigilante group starting after the pensioners seem to be moving home through intimidation. Put the flowers where they belong; on the deceased's grave and I expect they will be left alone. For now I am hoping that the plan to block the route with cars will be sufficient to make the mourners rethink their horse drawn funeral route. It seems like Vincent might have been part of a traveller community which is why I have to take some of the attached comments in news articles with a pinch of salt. I can't believe the line that the DWP will be footing the bill, surely they only cover the most basic expenses and if this burglar had so many open friends they'd naturally have already had a whip round. As for the police shouldn't they also be arresting and questioning some of these so called friends considering this was not an isolated case of burglary in the area recently?

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/947347/henry-vincent-richard-osborn-brooks-cap-pensioner-burglar-thief-stabbing

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/948019/hither-green-henry-vincent-dead-burglar-vigilante-genghis-khan-gang
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