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Syria 14 Apr 2018 07:17 #7011

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Woke up to the news that we're bombing Syria. How dare this government go ahead and do this without our say. How can dropping bombs on people help them? Of course chemical weapons should never be used, but bombing the chemical factories will surely spread the bloody stuff
This is all about power, money and sucking up to madman Trump. Amazing how we can't find money for all the problems we have at home, yet the 'magic money tree' comes alive to pay for wars. I'm so angry!
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Syria 14 Apr 2018 08:18 #7013

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Quite Agree why are we getting dragged into the Syria conflict, At the same time we could find ourselves at War with Russia, And with almost
no Armed Forces of our own we Would Lose Big Time. :angry:

How did It go back in the Sixties , "YANKEE GO HOME"
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Syria 14 Apr 2018 08:54 #7017

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This tit for tat bombing just leads to tensions between nations and here is May doing a Tony Blair but this time with Trump. No troops on the ground, but still enough to pee off the Russians. Why is it that we keep getting involved with middle east tensions yet there are wars and atrocities going on in other parts of the world we don`t give a fig about? Venezuela is being run by gangs, women are tortured and murdered, Once a tourist attraction, now it`s a no go zone. Does the UK offer assistance? Nope.

I could go on and on. And also, where are Saudi Arabia and the other EU nations in all of this? Surely they should be backing the UK,US and France? But no, they are happy to sit it out and allow us to bankrupt ourselves. get ready for more austerity folks. :angry:
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Syria 15 Apr 2018 00:23 #7026

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Yes the word which rapidly springs to mind is selective. Eventually our arrogant tin pot little establishment will bite off more than they can chew if this one isn't it already. People who wondered why the tories weren't interested in Blair being up for war crimes shouldn't be in any doubt now because anything like that limits what they can get away with in the future. Continually crying poverty yet getting another rise and going off to war again utter bollocks!
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Syria 15 Apr 2018 09:23 #7032

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Here we go again. Theresa May, Emmanuel Macron and Donald Trump are deterring the Assad regime from indiscriminately killing people by indiscriminately killing people.

Of course, we don't use the same methods of killing that Assad used - that's the whole point, because after half a million deaths in the Syrian war, we finally found some that we object to.

They didn't mind when people in Syria were getting their arms and legs blown off and their bodies squashed under the falling ruins of what used to be their homes.

Two years ago, there had been 470,000 people dead due to the Syrian war after which the United Nations stopped counting.

Russia has been bombing the place for years and there was no urgent allied government action, no threats to attack from America or Britain or France.

The Syrian city of Aleppo looks like the film set of a disaster movie rather than an actual place where people still live.

Yet while it was being bombed back to the stone age and its people were being exterminated we didn't raise a finger, because those were deaths that we didn't see much on the news – they don't tend to show bits of bodies and mangled torsos on the telly in case they make you turn over.

They have no problem showing people dying with foam coming out of their mouth though, because there's less blood.

That's why governments are clutching their pearls and demanding that something must be done – they saw something that upset them on the telly.

For the people of Syria, they probably don't think it necessarily an improvement in their circumstances to be killed by a bomb to being killed by a gas attack.

The gas might kill them instantly, while a bomb might leave them dying in agony in a pool of their relatives' blood for days leaving their infant babies to starve to death.

It also seems a bit rich for us to rush to occupy the moral high ground while at the same time selling weapons of mass destruction to the Saudis, in the knowledge that they use them to blow up hospitals and schools in Yemen.

If the Prime Minister actually cared about the people of Syria, she might have done something after the first 100,000 deaths, or maybe the first quarter of a million, but the government carried on ignoring them and fretting instead about more important things like what a threat Jeremy Corbyn is to the pound in our pocket, or whether they'll be able to hose the homeless off the streets of Windsor for Hazza and Sparkle's wedding.

If the President of the United States cared so much, wouldn't he have accepted some of those poor homeless Syrians as refugees?

Perhaps, up to now, they were potential terrorists and allowing them in might embolden Mexico to send some more of its “bad hombres”.

But show someone foaming at the mouth on Fox News and the president does his nut and starts barking at the TV and threatens to attack Russia with missiles that are “nice and new and smart”, in something of a contrast to the man that OK'd their use.

He actually tweeted “Mission Accomplished!” after the first night's strafing. How tone deaf do you have to be to repeat George W Bush's premature boast about the adventure in Iraq?

I know that no-one ever learns anything from history but was that long enough ago to count as historical?

Theresa May didn't wait until parliament got back from its Easter holidays before declaring that we were in on the latest western adventure in the Middle East.

She probably didn't want to risk asking parliament to vote on it and hearing the word “no”, as her predecessor did.

I wonder if the PM is keen to do whatever Donny wants because he is grumpy and temperamental and we need him to do us a favour on trade.

The World Health Organisation has said it believes 500 people were affected by the apparent attack in Douma on Saturday.

Five hundred die in a certain way on TV and we act – 500,000 die away from the cameras and our attitude seems to have been that we are busy, we've got other things to think about, we'll get to it later, where's Syria, what war?

Now things are different – the allies agreed it is vital that the use of chemical weapons should not go unchallenged, which is instructional to every murderous dictator out there.

The message is that you can do what you want and kill as many people as you like and leave whole towns in rubble and untold lives ruined, just don't use any gas because it makes us feel uncomfortable.

We will get all fighty when you kill a few people like that, while we'll look the other way if you kill hundreds of thousands in any other way.

Or at least the government will get fighty.

The public are not so gung-ho.

A poll taken after the gas attack had 22 per cent saying they are in favour of action and 43 per cent against.

But that can't possibly be, because that would mean that the PM is thwarting the will of the people and we know how she feels about that.
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Syria 15 Apr 2018 09:49 #7033

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Way Back in 1990 while doing my Major "Travel Bit" Went all Over Syria, Visiting and staying in aleppo; Damascus,
and got as far East as Palmyra, Beautiful Country with a lot of Ancient History;
Its gut wrenching what has been going on there Ignored till now by the rest of the World.
But the whole time I was in the Country there was a underlying Fear of the Government, Police & Military.
But would it not have been better to have Reacted to Help the Country, Not Blow it to Bits. :angry:

After Syria went on to Visit Jordan, What a Change in Atmosphere.
Flew Over Iraq & Iran to cont in Pakistan, but that's another Story. :whistle:
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Syria 15 Apr 2018 11:57 #7034

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Well said Warrior. What a bloody world we live in now eh? We vote supposedly for a democracy and get nothing more than a mouthpiece who, like PM`s before her follow Americas lead. I`m beginning to think we are all fed propaganda and ready made speeches from our so called leaders who can`t seem to be able to say no. I despair, I really do.
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