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2 sides to every story 06 Dec 2018 14:08 #11862

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We all see the main stream media coverage of Jamal the refugee who was pinned to the ground with water poured over him and how it seems MSM has a agenda. Who would of guessed.
My first reaction when seeing this was how one boy looked like a bully and quite a bit older when looking at the size difference and part of me was with what goes on today least it wernt acid. On seeing this i thought there must be little real news if this is being shown everywhere. Lefties everwhere virtual signalling. Been a few yrs since ive been to school and ive seen and done worse to what was shown. These 2 boys when being dealt with we must remember they are kids and the sad bit is it was dealt with at school and with the video it all got blown out of proportion again. The video ive put up makes interesting watching. Notice its not the MSM showing this as that would not fit their agenda. I feel for this country to once again flourish we must surely all be treated equal as no wonder there is tension between communities.
We are one of if not the most inclusive/tolerant countrys around but tension is mounting because people are not being treated fairly. Bailey and his family are now in hiding as the media have not covered this story properly :ohmy: (shock)
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2 sides to every story 06 Dec 2018 15:38 #11867

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Yeah I followed this story as it was happening and the left wing media went on a crazy witch hunt for racism then I watched the video and realised what was going on it was quite shocking seeing how the mainstream left media hung that poor kid out to dry and labels him a raciest because he had watched some Tommy Robinson videos and had a fight with a brown kid.
Though calling it a fight is a bit if a joke in my opinion all he did was try head but him and failed he then wrestled him to the ground with almost no resistance and poured a little water in his face for about one second and it was done
the mainstream media called it a brutal assault and used words like water boarding to describe it and everyone of them used it as an opportunity to attack Tommy Robinson and where calling for Tommy to be sued for inciting hate
and yet they refused to mention how the media witch hunt and doxing of the bully lead to him and his family receiving death threats from angry irrational migrants with murder on there mind
the family had to be evacuated in the middle of the night because a growing mob of migrants outside there home where shouting death threats aimed at the family
and not one of the left wing media circus mentioned this not one of them showed the video of the actual assault every one of them conflated a simple incident of school yard bullying in to a national racial incident this should have been dealt with by the school authority's
if the press are accusing Tommy of hate speech that incited violence shouldn't they be accepting responsibility for the fact a family has been chased from there homes because of there witch hunt ? are they not equally responsible for inciting the migrants to violence ?
they all called this kid a raciest and if you watch the video you will see there is no evidence the assault was racially motivated and to further prove this he was charged with aggravated assault not racial assault.....kinda ruins the narrative eh ?
and still the press will not issue a retraction or apologise to the family for the distress they caused them as far as they are concerned they felt justified in attacking a perceived racist your children are not safe from these zealots
the real take away from this is a message I have been trying to tell you all for a while now there is no moral stranded or law these people will not destroy in order to get there way and push there agenda

behold the dark heart of the left exposed for all to see



oh and apparently this laughable brutal assault is worth 156 thousand in crowd funded donations for the poor migrant victim .....some people are just gullible

witch version of events do you believe ?


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2 sides to every story 06 Dec 2018 17:03 #11868

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As has been pointed out elsewhere on This Forum, The "Old Stereotyped Left v Right no longer stands up in Modern Britain",
from the "So Called Far Left Wing of Antifascist" to the Unfounded Fear of any Right Wing voice that gets labelled Nazi, Its all without any substance,
All because someone is of a different SKIN Colour, and perhaps comes from a different Culture and even Country, Under the Skin we are all the same;
"There is only One Race, The Human Race" and the Sooner Everyone gets this through there Thick Bigoted Heads the Better,
Attacks on a Child is Always Wrong, Its Wrong this case was Partly Covered Up, Its Wrong the Extreme Far Left [ Antifascist ] are twisting this for there own Agenda.
But often Life is Wrong, Sooner we all Get along Together & Work together the Better.
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2 sides to every story 07 Dec 2018 00:02 #11875

All this attack on the "left" is bullshit. Yes the extreme left always take it too far, as do the extreme right. But don't tar all us lefties with the same brush. Also, what is all this "left wing media circus"? The majority of the media in this country is right wing, the left is a tiny minority.


Also, this:
We are one of if not the most inclusive/tolerant countrys around but tension is mounting because people are not being treated fairly.
Not sure what country you're talking about but it most certainly isn't this one.
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2 sides to every story 07 Dec 2018 01:31 #11877

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It is not racial until somebody makes it racial. Who made it racial in this incident and what was their evidence that it was racial?

I thought we were supposed to be a multicultural society which suggests we've all been getting along swimmingly for decades. The problem with this soundbite is that it is a very naive rose tinted view from people who have not spent significant time actually living in or close to dense immigrant populations that have become so in very quick time. It isn't towns which become like this it is individual neighbourhoods within those towns - typically like large towns such as Huddersfield which has wealthy areas and poor areas. I do not call this mass quick development as multicultural I call it wilful ghettoisation based on cheap migrant labour to support a rich elite. Giving something a fancy name makes it all the more annnoying.

As for Barry Sheerman as a staunch supporter of Blair to the extent that he publicly dissed Gordon Brown he can hardly be described as far left, centre left is being kind. Describing himself as a democratic socialist (whatever the hell that means but it certainly includes supporting a non-elected head of state which I thought socialism was opposed to), Sheerman also was one of the main supporters of PFI which has already plunged his local health trust up to it's eyeballs in debt yet stands on demos 'save our NHS' now that as a direct result his constituents face merging A&E depts with neighbouring Halifax. That is a slice of the character of a man sitting in judgement on a schoolkid who even if he were a racist is rather young to be facing national excommunication.

Witch trials mentality indeed but what if it backfires and the indigenous population take it upon themselves to retaliate in old fashioned anglo-saxon style? There are some irresponsible people who frankly should know better than to stir up a hornets nest. Have they forgotten the riots in neighbouring Bradford and Oldham already? It is far less a matter whether someone is far left or right, each individual particularly mature adults make their own choices, if they are so swayed by the slightest of occurences as this (tame compared to what I got at school) then I worry for them mentally and the rest of us for stability as we are on the edge of meltdown.

With the mess being made of brexit whilst domestic issues are continously ignored I honestly think there are more important issues for MPs to be sticking their oar into. For a start the national child abuse enquiry and events like unfolded in nearby Rotherham and Rochdale which cannot go without mention in relation to something being over blown as this case. Talk about inconsistency they make football referees look good. There is a lot gone down on local MPs watch in that part of the world in recent times and if memory serves me right the biggest campaigner for enquiry amongst them was Geoffrey Dickens and he defintely wasn't far left in his political persuasion so where were the lefties then? We have to be careful about polarising arguments, there are plenty of labour supporters concerned about immigration, gender rights, unemployment etc but they do not have a public voice and a fair few switched to UKIP and SNP maybe never to return.

My last word on it: to assume that a person is a victim because of their race with no evidence otherwise is to make race the issue where it was not and actually makes the whites amongst the accusers patronisingly racist themselves. For the non-white accusers this actually diminishes the seriousness of genuine racism and sets us back. Grow up Britain for goodness sake before it is too late!
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2 sides to every story 07 Dec 2018 01:53 #11879

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Your right tarquin it is the far left progressives but the problem is the mainstream left refuses to distance themselves from the far left witch makes me question what they stand for are they just paying lip service and humouring them or do they share there ideals ?
the right is able to distance themselves from the far right and have done for decades why cant the left do the same with the far left ?
I mean take the incident we are talking about why has Corbyn not came out and condemned the left wing media for what they done in this instance and what there witch hunt caused we get nothing but silence from them and in my eyes there silence makes them complicit.
If the mainstream left want to win me back as a supporter I want them to stand up and very loudly and clearly disavow the far left and there identity politics and get back to being focused on economic reform and representing the working man.
as long as they are attacking and dragging kids in to there culture war with the alt right they can f**k right off. This is a particularly heinous thing the left has allowed to happen and it has thoroughly disgusted me to my core if this is the left I want nothing to do with it.

And I dono where you live but I cant leave my house without seeing people of colour in my area and its been like that for as long as I remember and for the most part people get along with each other until recent years with mass migration and the emergence of the progressive left and there race baiting tactics causing division where there previously where none.
So from my perspective we have always been a multi cultural and tolerant country just not to the degree progressives and the globalists in the EU would like.

how tolerant are we well see for yourself.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/most-tolerant-progressive-eco-friendly-countries-a7516091.html

www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/maps-and-graphics/mapped-the-most-tolerant-countries/

And yes our media is mostly right leaning but the gaps not as large as you think.

yougov.co.uk/topics/media/articles-reports/2017/03/07/how-left-or-right-wing-are-uks-newspapers

And don't misunderstand my attacks on the left as an attack on you personally or left voters I'm sure you don't agree with the progressive ideology that the mainstream left is embracing you just simply haven't caught on to the fact that the left isn't what you think it is any more like most older supporters.
I personally test as a libertarian lefty according to the political compass test I shared recently but I don't recognise corbyn's left and cant in good conscious get behind them in there current mindset given everything I have seen over the last year.
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2 sides to every story 07 Dec 2018 08:57 #11885

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Tarquin_Flotsam wrote:
Also, this:
We are one of if not the most inclusive/tolerant countrys around but tension is mounting because people are not being treated fairly.
Not sure what country you're talking about but it most certainly isn't this one.

We Must Remember Back in the 1950s Many Migrant Workers were Recruited, Invited and made most welcome into Britain to fill the "Skills Shortage".
Most integrated very well into British Society, Liverpool has always been very Multicultural going back over 100 Years Plus. :)
The Basic Problem in my View, Far to many immigrants are now coming into Britain, Many with low or No Skills, and tend to get dumped by local Authority in the Worst Urban areas, Far to many of these New Immigrants cannot even speak English, This causes problems on Both Sides.
Then we have the Muslim Factor, Most are nice Genuine People, But like most groups there are some fanatical extreme Muslims who want Mosques on every street corner, Pubs Shut down , There own Laws and Refuse to integrate into Our Society.
That is the Start of Misunderstandings, Grooming, Crime and Urban Riots that we have all seen over the past 20 years or so.
Its this that must be tackled, And Extreme Political factions be from the Left or Right had better sit down together and Sought this out, In a Civilised Way. :)
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2 sides to every story 09 Dec 2018 09:18 #11920

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Tommy Robinson has joined the wrong party. If he wanted to join a radically racist and fascist party, he should have joined Momentum. (The Labour Party officially died when anti-Semitic and racist Jeremy Corbyn became leader).
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