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Universal Credit dad-of-three tried to kill himself while on phone to DWP 04 Jan 2019 05:02 #12555

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Dean Lovell-Payne, 52, took a massive overdose in September 2018 after having to endure almost three months without receiving any benefits at all

A dad driven to despair by Universal Credit tried to kill himself while on the phone to the DWP after he was denied payment for 10 weeks.

Dean Lovell-Payne, 52, who was incapacitated by a fall this summer, took a massive overdose in September 2018 after having to endure almost three months without receiving any benefits at all.

Now Dean, his partner Paula and their three children Andrew, 30, Lou, 17, and Phoebe, 15, have been forced to move into a house in woods on the outskirts of Bournemouth which is only accessible by a dirt track, meaning wheelchair-bound Dean is effectively housebound.

Despite pleading with the Universal Credit helpline, after the 10-week payment delay Dean said he felt he had no option but to take his own life during the call as he thought his life insurance would pay out more quickly.

He received his benefits the same day after police are believed to have alerted the DWP to the incident and a spokesman for the DWP said they ‘sympathised with the distress he felt’.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/universal-credit-dad-three-tried-13799086
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Universal Credit dad-of-three tried to kill himself while on phone to DWP 04 Jan 2019 09:43 #12559

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So for once the Police saved this mans life, And he did not become a Cold Bloodied Murder Victim of the Tory Government.
For once I can say well done to the Police, and Rot in Hell DWP.
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Universal Credit dad-of-three tried to kill himself while on phone to DWP 04 Jan 2019 12:15 #12566

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There is no excuse for this. UC payments (if they happen normally and in time) is five weeks. That`s the four week assessment phase and then seven days after that, payment should be paid. Delays like this should not be happening and if they do, why do people feel the need to be a suicide victim? The local authorities have welfare advisors that should flag these cases up, get on the phone to DWP and sort it. MP should also be involved. Moreso if someone is ill or unable to manage things easily.

He should also have claimed new style ESA (which is contributions based for one year) if you have worked in the previous two years and paid NI contributions. If your placed in the Support group (or LCWRA) in UC, it`s indefinite until you are re-assessed. Even so, this cannot and should not be happening to anyone.

Edited to add: Just read the Mirror`s story about the man who was previously a paramedic? The feedback below doesn`t sound too convinced about their income/outgoings as being poor. But it just reminds us all that if we DO have a half decent paying job (and lets face it, there aren't many these days) making sure we only pay out what is necessary and saving some for situations like this is absolutely VITAL now with UC being the solitary saviour of the nation. :unsure:
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Universal Credit dad-of-three tried to kill himself while on phone to DWP 05 Jan 2019 23:31 #12607

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Another hardworking person punished for getting ill. As with me, police were ready to break in the door after that tit of doctor lost me my DLA on top of my benefits already being messed up, fact I volunteered for the NHS because my health stops me holding down a permanent job (not that there are many of those anymore anyway) seemed to pass him by. He hadn't heard from me and was 'concerned' so concerned he bypassed social services and wasted police time - I told them exactly what I thought of him and switched practice pronto. We are going to have generations of embittered people who see no justice for the poor whether working or not in this system and when getting a job doesn't change your situation - what future exactly this guy is so right to think in that way. And after this trauma how likely is he to be able to return to work? Britain is rotten and I wish I was in a position to leave. What was the benefits system set up to provide specificallly? Some politicians have completely lost sight of reality and a huge swathe of the electorate with it. The cretins need to take a long hard look across the channel because with such unrelenting change will come change if it carries on like this.
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Universal Credit dad-of-three tried to kill himself while on phone to DWP 06 Jan 2019 00:00 #12611

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Universal Credit dad-of-three tried to kill himself while on phone to DWP 06 Jan 2019 10:39 #12628

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This DWP victim killed himself:

"A chronically ill father who hanged himself was found dead by his daughter after he was ruled fit to work - despite doctors concluding he was too ill to do his job.

The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) assessors had stopped Kevin Dooley's employment support allowance after a consultation."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6561103/Ill-father-hanged-daughter-just-days-Christmas.html
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Universal Credit dad-of-three tried to kill himself while on phone to DWP 06 Jan 2019 12:16 #12629

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Quote from the Mail article:

The DWP said a Universal Credit advance payment had been made to Mr Dooley on December 8 after the ESA appeal rejection letter on November 29.
Mr Dooley was also appealing the decison to work made on his ESA claim to an independent tribunal.
It said his 'work requirement' had been turned off because he told his work coach he would be challenging the appeal decision.
A DWP spokesperson said: 'Our thoughts are with Mr Dooley's family at this difficult time.'

It appears DWP only take notice when someone has to die and pitifully say their `thoughts are with the family`. Really? This whole circus of allowing `middlemen` to assess people on a snap shot half hour assessment should be judged (by LAW) as UN-lawful when the UK have an NHS who already carry out assessments on each person registered with a GP.

This poor man was going to appeal his ESA decision but sadly, didn`t get to, which is sad because chances are an INDEPENDENT appeals Tribunal don`t think the same way as DWP thankfully and use the EVIDENCE in front of them. I won my last ESA appeal so easily I nearly fell of the chair while there because I was only in the chair for around one to two minutes and told I had won my ESA WRAG award back again and could have had a paper based assessment given that knowledge. I had presented a `good submission` according to the judge.

Anyone thinking of trying to apply for or keep their current ESA or PIP awards should get HELP to do so from CAB, their GP and other good sources of help who can advise you and help to fill out the necessary form and paperwork with you (or for you). Going it alone can sometimes mean they make assumptions that you have managed to do it all on your own and that can backfire.

Still can`t believe these sad cases are still happening yet nobody in charge is making a stand to put a complete STOP to it. The NHS should be doing the assessments, our GP`s should be given the money to carry out decent examinations and taking account of each patients medical history (after all, it`s all in the same office on a computer system) to make a balanced judgement. Rather than just saying sorry mate, your fine. The government know this which is why they have blocked out those professionals who would side with their patients 100% and oh dear....that would cost the poor taxpayer more money. It seems it`s worth letting people suffer and actually die is okay if it saves money. This mentality is equal to manslaughter.
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