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Patient Summary? 05 Jul 2018 14:50 #9152

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Has anyone ever asked to see their medical records in either paper or online form, or asked for a patients summary? I`ve been thinking about what I need to ask my GP to print off for me in the form of evidence since my last ESA assessment to build my next case against any futile attempts by DWP to remove my WRAG award again.

I`ve been reading that patients records can be read online for around £10. If we request a full copy on paper, it can cost up to around £50. A patients Summary is usually for medical staff to see if we need emergency care at home or at a different hospital, but what are the chances we can also ask for a copy of this?

ESA being what it is and the emphasis of proof being on the claimant to provide evidence of medications, medical outcomes etc..... can be a daunting task. I`ve only had a letter from one of my GP`s previously and a print out of a referral he done for me, which along with my own submission, was enough for an appeal panel to award me on paper alone, even though I attended my appeal in person, I wasn`t in the chair more than about two minutes when I was told I had my WRAG award re-instated.

But because ESA assessments are a fresh look at a persons health problems, it`s not now a case of thinking they will use historical evidence to allow us to retain our award unless we can prove that we have had no improvement, where a decision maker would then have to justify removing an ESA award or down grading it.
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Patient Summary? 05 Jul 2018 14:59 #9153

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According to the info on this link you are entitled to check your health records for free:

www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/thenhs/records/healthrecords/Pages/what_to_do.aspx
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Patient Summary? 05 Jul 2018 15:17 #9155

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Quote from BB`s link:

GP records
GP records include information about your medication, allergies, vaccinations, previous illnesses and test results, hospital discharge summaries, appointment letters and referral letters.
You can access your GP records, and nominate someone you trust to access them, through GP online services.
Visit GP online services (opens in a new window).
Your Summary Care Record
If you’re registered with a GP practice, you'll have a Summary Care Record unless you've chosen not to have one. It contains basic information including your allergies, medications and any reactions you’ve had to medication in the past. You can’t view your Summary Care Record online, so if you’d like to see it, please speak to your GP.

Thanks for this BB, very helpful. Not too sure if I should be looking at my actual GP records or ask to view my patients summary online? No doubt my GP will tell me more when I ask him. I`m in Scotland so not too sure if we have this GP Online Service?
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Patient Summary? 05 Jul 2018 15:30 #9156

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This link is all about the health service in Scotland:

www.nhsinform.scot/care-support-and-rights/health-rights/access/health-records
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Patient Summary? 05 Jul 2018 16:21 #9158

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Heaven only knows where my records are, stuck somewhere still in the Prison system I suspect, now I have moved might have caught up with my old Wales address,
next stop Merseyside at some point I would hope ?
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Patient Summary? 05 Jul 2018 18:49 #9165

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Paul, depending on which GP practice you are actually registered with, if you have moved from Wales to Liverpool and need to see a GP in Liverpool, you will normally be asked to join that practice if you intend to stay in the area for a long time to come, but I would contact your previous surgery about this incase your details need to be updated. I was a medical receptionist way back 20 years ago for a short time so the way they work now has possibly changed. But ask to speak to the practice manager.

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Patient Summary? 13 Jul 2018 13:07 #9278

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Thanks Comply, Been in Touch and registered with local practice here in Liverpool, Old centre back in Wales had all my Records forwarded to new practice,
On Registration had a Full Medical [ Required New Patient Policy ] Found to be in "Amazing" Good Health for my age B)
I put it down to plenty of Fluids ;) ,
Nurse was a lot less impressed with my weekly Alcohol intake :whistle:
At least im now Registered:
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Patient Summary? 13 Jul 2018 16:18 #9282

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Good Paul, I expected that would be the case. I have changed practices a few times in local area over last 10 years and current practice has always asked for records from previous one so I think it must be pretty much standard policy now. Apologies for not adding this earlier, had a lot of distractions and delays lately.

I have had good medical reports in recent years but similarly had issues raised about alcohol intake. I fluctuate a little either side of their official alcohol limit, mostly under so can afford the occasional session. Crikey some of those I used to go out boozing with (I had to give that life up 25 years ago because as I rightly identified it was people and not the alcohol making me more aggressive) are probably snecking that in two if not one night. So I take the advice seriously up to a point but when last practice told me to give up completely all of a sudden (a week before Burns' Night) and I agreed to straight after that date but then within a few months was drinking more than I had in years got my new GP to refer me to a specialist centre and they helped me manage it more gradually since when I have been fine but they were very shocked about the advice from that surgery, the same one which the idiot doctor lost me my DLA and landed me back on JSA. Welcome to the UK health lottery.
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Patient Summary? 13 Jul 2018 16:46 #9287

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Glad the advice helped you out Paul. At least if you need to see a GP now you won`t have any delays or your records were not at that practice.

Verc wrote: the same one which the idiot doctor lost me my DLA and landed me back on JSA. Welcome to the UK health lottery

Absolutely. I see a female GP and a male GP, depending on who is available when I call for an appointment and it doesn`t matter who we happen to see these days, they all seem to have a `jobsworth` attitude to DLA/PIP or ESA. I`ve had `some` help from the male GP a few years ago when he done me a short letter to help with my last ESA appeal and I didn`t have to ask for it. Probably didn`t need to as I was in a bit of a `teary` state when I went to see him. Two years on from that I`ve became a bit more hardened to the fact (and thanks too to BB for giving me insight to use the protocols available) to fight my corner and when you think about all of this, it all comes down to a few things.

1. If you are already ON ESA, especially in the WRAG group of ESA, the need to use the already awarded descriptors to argue the case for an ongoing award is vital because a decision maker would have to justify removing an award based on questioning medical evidence put forward if that person has had NO improvement in their condition(s).

I`m veering off into ESA here so will get back to the Patient Summary discussion! I`ve read that asking for a Patients Summary is just listing appointments we have had, medications prescribed, x-ray results, referrals to see other health care professionals etc....

I will be asking for one of these reports soon but will also be trying to engage my GP in the little conversation about my next ESA assessment and the descriptors I alread meet because it seems to me that these ten minute appointments we have with a GP can sometimes end up being a one sided conversation, or very little conversation.
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