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Benefit Sanctions and the Rule of Law 26 Apr 2017 18:34 #2060

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This will raise the blood pressure ;)

Benefit Sanctions and the Rule of Law

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Benefit Sanctions and the Rule of Law 26 Apr 2017 23:31 #2064

Shame that the UK government thinks it's a law unto itself though
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Benefit Sanctions and the Rule of Law 08 May 2017 12:17 #2372

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It did with this, but loss the case :)

Anyone wanting to give dwp or joke centre the middle finger i would read through the details in this case meticulously and then slam it on their desk when they start doing their jobsworths little power game.

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Hope this info helps myself and others out there in their daily struggle of dealing with these numb skulls.

My understanding is after them losing the case the dwp will still pretend they won in their usual deluded fashion.
However there now appears to be case law and if anyone ends up in a tribunal court situation i cant see the clever folks at DWP over riding case law. :)

Sometimes, the law can even protect the unemployed. :)
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Benefit Sanctions and the Rule of Law 08 May 2017 15:15 #2376

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Thanks for this jobber, I`ve saved it. It`s more important than ever that we, the guilty until proven innocent, know the laws/regulations surrounding JSA and Universal Credit because their own decision makers apply it to sanction individuals and manipulate the way they want us to act. JSA for example will say take two steps a week to look for work. Now we all know that`s not going to cut it with a jobsworth coach, even though the law STATES this to be correct and if we applied it to the rule, they wouldn't be able to say otherwise because we have acted on what is written. So if someone only applied for two jobs a week, that`s all they should be doing as bare minimum to satisfy the rules. Yet with Universal Credit, we have the 35 hour work search criteria. Very different, but UC will also have it`s rules and regulations applied the same way JSA is. So....if Universal Credit states we must look for work 35 hours a week, we divide that into five hours a day right? Well yes and no.

I suppose it depends on each persons Claimant Commitment and whether they get very detailed and logically do as it states, or may just apply for everything and anything approach, which could backfire. So we need to begin by firstly looking at what the UC laws are and what they say regarding the actual `Steps` we must take and apply them logically. Not literally.
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Benefit Sanctions and the Rule of Law 10 May 2017 03:19 #2412

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The_unwashed_mass wrote:
Shame that the UK government thinks it's a law unto itself though

It is not that the case?
When iniquitous laws are enacted they inevitably go together with the lowering of the standards of law.
When the purpose an Act is to make our life difficult, then its application also gravitate to the extremes and grey areas.
The dual trend of more restrictive legislation and the difficulties to overcome its abuse are simply different expression of a malignant ideology infecting the State.
To eliminate unemployment one needs only to eliminate the unemployed
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