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Outlook email not secure? 13 Jul 2018 09:24 #9272

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To explain what I am seeing, I will post this link which shows a screenshot from someone else experiencing the same problem:
forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/230082-hotmail-displaying-not-secure/

Over the past week, when I `log in` to Outlook Live (which now seems to open my email/Hotmail account without me actually having to log in separately) which I used to have to do? In the https address bar is states `Not Secure`? :ohmy:

Since getting the update for Windows 10 a few months back (version 1803) I `log into` my Microsoft account from my laptop screen using a username and password. Otherwise, I can`t access the internet. Once logged in,I am then able to see my Windows screen with the applications and the Windows icon to the right. From there, I can click on my EDGE browser and open the internet.

From here, I can `sign in` to my email Outlook LIVE email account NOT by logging in separately using a username and password (this has already been done when I logged into my `account` from the home screen. So that has changed as I never used to be able to access my Hotmail account without logging into it separately? Seems Microsoft have changed this?

Anyway, my main issue is this NOT SECURE message in the address bar when I click on any of my emails? Anyone know how this happens or how to remedy it? I`m not sure if it`s something I need to change or Microsoft? It`s freaking me out that it states my emails may be viewed or changed by others? :dry: Worried.

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It`s the above image I`m seeing.

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Never been a fan of "Outlook" Stick to well tried and Tested e-mail services/Providers
I Personally use "Hushmail" with "G-Mail;" as a "Back Up".

Hushmail; www.hushmail.com/

G-Mail www.google.com/gmail/about/#

I Have always found Both Secure, Fast & Efficient B)
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Outlook email not secure? 13 Jul 2018 15:48 #9279

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Well first off, evil microfrost empire :lol: has definitely changed it. My set up is slightly different but the principle is the same, I no longer require seperate log in to get to my hotmail. Secondly, I haven't seen any unsecure warnings yet so this may have something to do with our settings incl other apps (no idea sorry) but I had actually been thinking about this in the week or so since I have had Win 10. I switched to Outlook yesterday when changing my settings after reading the thread on Win 10 help, however, I do not see any change in the basic problem I was having. WHERE THE HELL HAS JUNK FOLDER DISAPPEARED TO?! How do I now report the dodgy spam (which I can no longer even see) as phishing or block the address? My suspicions are running high also. I have noticed some strange behaviour in this brief period although thankfully not detected any malware and I have run checks most days when previously only once a week + after accidentally clicking on any ad or site has thrown up something dodgy. This is not to say of course that there are not sneakier threats being developed under the radar. For the time being I am having to think about security as an ongoing concern which I guess should help me get clued up. Thankfully I hear Win 10 is the last upgrade but my present thoughts haven't shifted away from the reviews of Win 10 I noticed on my first day and can see myself adding to - basically: 'no wonder people are heading over to Apple!'
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Thanks for your thoughts Paul and Verc. I have only noticed this `Not Secure` when I actually click on an email to open it. When I log into my Microsoft Outlook account, it seems this is now called Outlook LIVE? Used to be Hotmail? Microsoft always confused me with that. But anyway, the Outlook page opens and any emails I have already showing in my Inbox are there, but if I click on one to view it, that`s when the address bar changes to `Not Secure`? :unsure:

Don`t know how the hell to change this as I don`t want to be opening emails to read or reply to them and not know if they are private or can be seen by others. This is frightening given the security protocols these companies are supposed to abide by. I don`t have the same issues with gmail, just Outlook. If I thought it was something I could change in the settings, I would do it, but don`t yet know what it is I`m supposed to be doing to block or change this apparent intrusion. Part of me wants to close the damn account altogether, but that seems a bit drastic if it`s a problem I`m just overlooking that could easily fix this. So far, googling the problem has only said it could be apps or permissions or something that`s changed that Microsoft have not updated?

If any tech-minded geeks are reading this, give me a shout!
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Totally understand and share your concerns about this comply. The layout I am looking at right now just looks crap as well and that isn't me getting set in my ways it's being practical and saying 'why the heck do it that way when it was fine before - arrrggh
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Something else I`ve noticed Verc on the email page itself is a little notice that asks `Try The Beta`? Now....I`m wondering if this is Microsoft`s sneaky way of getting account holders to click on this `Beta` version in the hope it will cure all ills and we won`t switch back to the version we were using? I could be wrong, but before this big Windows 10 1803 update was sprung on us a few months back, I had to log into my Hotmail email page separately. Now we have this Outlook LIVE thing? I don`t even understand what the hell this LIVE feature is? Sounds to me like a sharing strategy, a bit like Google Drive? But it`s called Outlook.live.com and they also have the OneDrive version of google Drive called OneDrive Online.

These have all suddenly came about since this big update push.

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After reading your Experiences Comply & Verc, Im very Glad I use Hushmail & Gmail. B)
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Right, have snipped an image of this from my email page in Outlook:

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It seems to suggest that my certificate for Outlook LIVE is validated? So why is it not secure? :S

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In the first link I posted, the person who replied stated this:

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It means there is a problem with the TLS/SSL Certificate used for HTTPS.

So how do I go about rectifying this TLS/SSL certificate issue? My email certificate states that it`s validated up until 2020?

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I aren't up to speed with that so can't answer, hope someone else can though. Maybe they could have given you a full answer in the first place.

I think it is time I started using my virgin account for emails even though it is a bit cumbersome (I used to have thunderbird from mozilla which was great but when I first got my previous PC could only find a paid for version so will check that out first). It is probably more practical to use virgin especially as I am stuck with them and it costs a lot as I can have several different addresses there and appropriate business, personal, sport and recreation accordingly etc. Then when that is all set up can just disable as much as I can to do with microsoft.

Again, I agree that it is coming across as a possible sharing strategy. I confess I have been lazy on this partly due to it being a busy time for sport and my PC dying on me too but have just found the junk folder in outlook and the feature to report as phishing scam or block the address from all those wonderful people out there wanting to send me millions of pounds for events I never even entered is strangely missing and just reinforces my suspicions.
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Outlook email not secure? 14 Jul 2018 08:30 #9299

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Never had a real problem yet with outlook apart from once i locked myself out of account due to losing password info and despite microsoft sending me 10 text with acc update pass code didn't work,nightmare!

Check malwarebytes exclusion settings or any ad blockers that may interfere with email. :)

Check you are not using the new beta outlook version as that may well cause people problems,easy to have this installed by mistake.

The beta sign comply is indeed MS hoping people will change over to that,if they keep doing this crap they will piss people off and will drop MS altogether.
Hotmail was perfectly good and the web designers at MS built a crappy new interface imo for MS Outlook.
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Never had a real problem yet with outlook apart from once i locked myself out of account due to losing password info and despite microsoft sending me 10 text with acc update pass code didn't work,nightmare!

Check malwarebytes exclusion settings or any ad blockers that may interfere with email. :)

Check you are not using the new beta outlook version as that may well cause people problems,easy to have this installed by mistake.

Check you PC's overall security settings and all anti v and malware is up to date run full scans and see what comes up.
You should not be having to mess with certificates as thats embedded security set within web browsers.

The beta sign comply is indeed MS, hoping people will change over to that,if they keep doing this crap they will piss people off and will drop MS altogether.
Hotmail was perfectly good and the web designers at MS built a crappy new interface imo for MS Outlook.

Cryptographic protocols give authentication/data encryption between servers, machines and applications operating over a network.

Try settings , go to apps, choose reset email app, may help. or

IE fix:
Open Internet Explorer.
Click Tools icon. | Internet Options.
Click the Advanced tab.
Under "Security", deselect "Check for publisher's certificate revocation" and "Check for server certificate revocation."
Click Apply.
Click Ok.
Close and relaunch Internet Explorer.

Google Chrome fix:

Clear all browsing data ( cache, cookies, hosted app data and so on). Then restart your browser.
Restore your browser default settings. Restart your browser. ...
Navigate to your browser “settings” →”change proxy”.
In Security and Privacy Tab, adjust the level to “medium”.
Clear and restart your browser.

How do I get rid of security certificate errors?
Open Internet Explorer and click on "Tools," or the gear icon. Click "Internet Options" and click on the "Advanced" tab. Navigate to the "Security" subheading and remove the check marks on both the “Check for publisher's certificate revocation” and “check for server certificate revocation” options.

looks like there has been a change from ssl to TLS as common security standards and not all websites have caught up server side.

Some nice reading here :) :www.hostingadvice.com/how-to/tls-vs-ssl/

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Thanks for this info jobber, I will have a go shortly. Head is spinning this morning so will attempt your suggestions when I feel more able to. Will do these one at a time and report back later with my findings.
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Excellent link there Jobber, Reading it with great Interest.
Answers some queries I have had but did not know where to look.
Thanks for posting. B)
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Just to say, I don`t use Internet Explorer jobber, I use the new Windows EDGE browser, so that little `tools/settings` icon isn`t there anymore as it was in Windows 7. To access the settings I now have to open the … dots in the upper right corner of the browser screen although there is an `open with Internet Explorer` option in that drop down menu, I`m not sure that has something to do with the security problems in my Outlook email?

Just wish I could find the one thing that I could hit upon to rectify this. The https is there when I open Outlook and see a list of emails. It`s not until I click on and open an email that this changes to `Not Secure` even though the address bar still has https? My certificate is all up to date and valid, so it`s not that. Has to be some compatibility problem? Or Outlook not recognising something. Hope I can get to the bottom of this. These things always seem to happen when Microsoft mess with updates.

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I am now considering scrapping all my outlook accounts even though that will be a major headache for me, always problems with displaying fonts over use of spell checker working when it shouldn't, full window display works sometimes and not others, false warnings etc,good old microsoft.


Comply, try signing into your ms email account here: outlook.live.com/owa/?authRedirect=true & not directly through your icons in settings start menu,may help.
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Thanks jobber. Just tried logging in using your link and when I clicked on `sign in`, I wasn`t prompted to type in my email username or password, but taken straight to my mail page automatically. Outlook Live doesn`t seem to ask account users to sign in manually now but just click on the `sign in` box and it automatically directs you to your email page. Then when I click on an email that `Not Secure` message appears in the address bar again.

Strangely though, I replied to a private email to a friend this morning in Outlook and the https stayed the same. Yet when I click on an email from ebay for example, the Not Secure message appears next to the https? So I`m wondering if Outlook recognises private messages from commercial messages? Although to me, they should ALL be private if they are addressed to us? Something is amiss but my Microsoft certificate is genuine and up to date, so I`m bamboozled by it.

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What each security symbol means
These symbols let you know how safe it is to visit and use a site. They tell you if a site has a security certificate, if Chrome trusts that certificate, and if Chrome has a private connection with a site.

Lock Secure


Information Info or Not secure
The site isn't using a private connection. Someone might be able to see or change the information you send or get through this site.

On some sites, you can visit a more secure version of the page:

Select the address bar.
Delete http://, and enter https:// instead.
If that doesn't work, contact the site owner to ask that they secure the site and your data with HTTPS.
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Will be looking into your tips shortly jobber, thanks. What I see is this:

I sign in and the Outlook Live page address bar is: outlook.live.com/owa/

I can see my email page and any emails already reveived. If I click on one from a friend, the https remains the same. If I click on a reply from ebay, for example, the address bar will change to Not Secure outlook.live.com/owa/

So apart from the Not Secure wording before the https the emails arrive and can be replied to. I just can`t know if the generated emails or commercial emails are secure or allowing `others` to view their content.
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both those links work fine and when on the landing page for outlook it shows as secure Comply ?
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