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The End of the Tory Goverment 09 Mar 2018 16:27 #6472

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Not just a Pipe Dream, It can Happen;
It Can be Done;
Just look at this Brief Outline of a Real Alternative;

What is Socialism
The stage of economic development that follows capitalism. Its key features are: state power is concentrated in the hands of the working class; the means of production, distribution and exchange are socially and/or state owned; central and local control of economic planning; control of pricing and wages; and an economic programme which continually increases output. Socialism is a transitional state between capitalism and communism, the length of time and the actual process would be driven by the economic and social conditions prevailing in that country at that time.

What is Communism?
It is a classless society that follows socialism, where the state has moved to ‘the administration of things’ rather than people, summed up by the phrase used by Marx and Engels “From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs”. A Communist society assumes that most production has attained a level of efficiency that provides for an overwhelming abundance of all the basic necessities of life, allowing for human beings to fully pursue their interests outside of the workplace. All existing and former socialist countries have erroneously been labelled as ‘communist’ but no society has ever achieved this stage of economic development.

What is imperialism?
Imperialism is an advanced stage of capitalist development that developed in the 20th Century and continues in leading European and North American capitalist countries. Imperialism essentially was bought about by: the completion of colonial expansion; the increasing monopolisation of capital; the dominance of finance capital; the export of capital rather than just commodities; and the formation of international capitalist bodies and alliances.

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The End of the Tory Goverment 13 Mar 2018 00:49 #6510

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Time's up for Tories?

It used to be that you could buy your own home if you had a normal job. People that worked as teachers and office managers, plumbers or drivers could afford to buy a place to call their own.

Even nurses used to be able to afford one and doctors could have one with its own front door on a street in Chelsea.

These days, you would need to be a doctor of mathematics and have sold your soul to work in a hedge fund to get a house in SW3.

Twenty years ago, when young middle-class professionals were raving to house music at the weekend, they were twice as likely to get their own place as their modern equivalents who work all weekend to buy a house.

A report by the Institute for Fiscal Studies said that just one in four young middle-income families now owns their own home.

It was two in three in the 1990s.

It means people with ordinary jobs are now stuck renting into their thirties or forties or forever.

This is very bad news for the Conservative Party.

The Tories are not building enough homes, just like the government before them and the one before that.

In fact, Britain has not built enough homes in pretty much any year since the Second World War.

As usual, short termism is the cause. Successive governments have reneged on their duty to provide shelter for all and simply aimed their policies at those who already had one: older people.

Unfortunately for the Tories, time does not stand still and those older people are falling off life's conveyor belt and are not being replaced with new home owners.

Young people are now as likely to own their own home as they are to vote Tory, and that's the problem for the party in blue.

The young used to vote for left wing parties and gradually shifted to the right over time.

You care about people more when you are young and you haven't had the joy of life beaten out of you.

When you're young you are starry-eyed about the possibilities available to you and not yet miserable that life has not come up to your expectations; you have hopes and dreams and you haven't yet given up hopes of fulfilling them.

So the young vote left - the caring wing of the political spectrum.

When they got old though, they'd acquired things that they wanted to protect, and that's when they used to start to vote for right-wing parties.

When they have a house and a pension and assets, people tend to vote Tory because that's the kind of party that will be more likely to let them hang on to their wealth and not distribute it for the benefit of others less fortunate.

That equation is now broken.

Young people aren't buying houses and they don't have pensions and they haven't gathered any wealth.

Why would they start voting for a right-wing party, if they don't have anything to protect?

It is likely that they will continue to vote for left wing parties, unless someone comes along and persuades them that the reason they haven't done well is not the stupid government or the evil multinationals, or the way the tax laws are written by and for the rich, it is the fault of someone below them on the ladder of life, and that's where so-called populism comes in.

The Tories need to give people easily identified minorities to hang the blame on – if only there weren't so many foreigners vying for houses and cheap foreign labour, who are more eager and work harder, or just generally people “comin over 'ere”, then they would be able to have their own home.

That is the message they need to promote to keep the young on-side.

In short, they need to do a Donald Trump.

He blamed the Mexicans but we have the EU and as long as Theresa May doesn't do anything to stem the flow of immigrants, it just might work.

But she is currently engaged in doing just that.

And when the immigrants stop coming, who will the young be persuaded to blame then?

Anyone want to bet against Jeremy Corbyn for our next PM?
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The End of the Tory Goverment 13 Mar 2018 07:37 #6511

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Interesting reply there Warrior; Yes "Once" I was young and full of Hopes and Dreams; In 1978 brought into the Home ownership dream,
Did not last long, purpose built 2 bedroom flat in not the best area of Portsmouth, but I thought I had "Arrived" £12,000 Mortgage at 6.2%.
1979 BANG Thatcher got into power, Overnight Mortgage interest rate hit 15%; Goodbye Flat, went and worked In Germany in Disgust.
Back into UK 1990, Things no better so buggered of abroad again.
After Many Years of Renting Tested the Waters again, Brought a old Miners Terrace House in South Wales Valleys, Wrong Time :(
It was 2007, Current Recession hit 2008, House Repossessed and I went Bankrupt in 2011.
I will Now Rent forever. Home ownership is now in the past; And I Hope the Tory's will also be "In the Past".
As for today's Young, They can see whats happening, and wont be buying, even if They have Parents happy to pay the £20,000 + Deposit
It will take a Epic Reversal of Government and Polices to get people buying Property again, and in South East England & London
only wealthy Arabs need apply.
Most of the World Rent, Now the UK is part of that trend; Except for the Millions who Have nowhere to call home.
In my View Communist or a Left Wing Labour Government is Britain's only Hope for any sought of Future for the Young,
As for us Old People "We have had it". :angry:
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The End of the Tory Goverment 06 Apr 2018 08:44 #6861

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The End of the Tory Goverment 06 Apr 2018 10:06 #6863

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What will be very interesting, is when the few still in moderately well paid jobs actually in line with the cost of living currently in a position to pay their rents and mortgages.When them jobs go down the toilet and are in the same position as most on here, and even worse in some cases as they will have far too much cash in bank to claim;then see how easy it is to get another job even remotely near the same wage as their currently on.

It will ne a serious wake up call for many while they've all been happily living inside the tory bubble of everything is find and wonderful working and living in the uk. :) :evil:
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The End of the Tory Goverment 06 Apr 2018 14:10 #6866

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jobber wrote:
When them jobs go down the toilet and are in the same position as most on here, and even worse in some cases as they will have far too much cash in bank to claim;then see how easy it is to get another job even remotely near the same wage as their currently on.

And it will happen jobber. Businesses are having to streamline and close due to Brexit pressures and wage/tax/pension changes, so the axe will fall at some point. Decent jobs are like hens teeth nowadays so that leaves the agency work and temporary/zero hrs contracts to thrive.
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