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The tired old "Corbyn is unelectable" line 20 Apr 2017 13:25 #1848

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The tired old "Corbyn is unelectable" line 20 Apr 2017 14:11 #1851

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Corbyn is a excellent Leader for Labour, Do NOT believe the Tory lies and Filth in the Right Wing
Terrorist /Tory Press; Why do you think so much of the British Media are anti Labour ?
Because they are Tory Owned and Operated. :angry:
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The tired old "Corbyn is unelectable" line 20 Apr 2017 15:23 #1856

Aye no one would focus so much hatred and effort on discrediting someone if they weren't a genuine threat
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The tired old "Corbyn is unelectable" line 20 Apr 2017 16:20 #1860

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Only limited time for the Corbyn supporters to gather momentum so what Mr Corbyn could do is, make a list of say five pledges that if he doesn`t put in place in his first year in office as a new Prime Minister, the Labour party could then be free to ditch him or he would hold another general election. Now that might convince more `sit on the fence` voters.
Pledges could be:

1. Will make sure every homeless person is housed and secure and that nobody will every be MADE homeless as a result of government policy
2. Will stop zero hours contracts
3. Will scrap Universal Credit and ALL sanctions!
4. Will look at introducing a UBI within the first two years in office
5. Will immediately scrap the bedroom tax

Now I don`t bet, but I do follow the gee gees and to me, any right minded person not thinking these are all positive moves shouldn`t be voting.
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The tired old "Corbyn is unelectable" line 26 Apr 2017 03:03 #2042

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Corbyn do not seems to me much of a leader.
His policy are old fashion and outdated (of course better than the Tory ones any day, but this is not the point...). It should have come clean with a number of pledges to improve the life of the downtrodden, for instance clearly say that sanctions will be outlawed under a future labour Government or that disable would be saved from the WCA (still let's not forget all of these were Labour introductions, enthusiastically taken up by the conservatives).

More worrying still it seem way too timid. A leader with some of the proverbial would have already scuppered the election vote, forcing a confidence vote on May, would have promised a new indy referendum for Scotland, on voting reform and one on the return to the EU.

Above all and most stupidly, he did not go for a progressive alliance.
Barring miracles this election will bring us no joy.
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The tired old "Corbyn is unelectable" line 26 Apr 2017 09:25 #2044

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Brutus wrote:
Corbyn do not seems to me much of a leader.
His policy are old fashion and outdated (of course better than the Tory ones

As I see it, to frame an analysis of policy in a reference of 'Corbyn versus Tory' is misleading. These are the tactics of corrupt individuals in the world of politics and media who seek to destroy the credibility of an individual, an individual whose socialist ideology is seen by conservative politicians as a threat to their stolen wealth and power. These are the same conservative politicians who dupe the public into believing that their interests are represented while under a cloak of deception they satisfy their own insatiable personal greed for power and wealth by corrupt means.

I dislike the media driven and convenient scapegoat label of 'leader'. Corruption is the real issue here. Corruption is endemic, corruption is deeply entrenched and corruption hides behind a carefully constructed fortress built and maintained by the corrupted. People often refer to 'the government', 'the council, 'parliament'', 'DWP', 'the monarchy', 'the police' or 'the establishment' as being corrupt. In reality these constructions or fortresses are no more capable of being corrupt than say, the house we live in or the car that we drive yet there are millions who direct their protests at these fortresses. The energy behind these protests are simply absorbed by the dense walls of these fortresses, they have little or no effect, nothing changes and the protester is drained of any real fight. These fortresses are inpenetrable containers of corruption and as such they are not capable of being held accountable. It is an innescapable fact that inanimate objects in and of themselves are not capable of corrupt activity. It is individuals who are corrupt and it is individuals who should be targetted and held accountable for their actions.

A man drives his car over a bridge in London and steers his car into a group of people with the sole intention of either killing or injuring them. Who or what do we say is accountable for this crime? ...is it the driver or the car? It would be pointless and absolutely rediculous to aim our protest at the car for committing the crime and yet we continue to direct our anger at anything but the drivers, the corrupt individuals seated at the wheel of these fortresses who should be held personaly responsible for their political crimes against the people of this country.

To get back to the point, Jeremy Corbyn is an individual who is capable of being held accountable for his actions both as a politician and as a person. Citing his opponent as 'Tory' without naming an individual who is accountable is not a fair comparison.
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The tired old "Corbyn is unelectable" line 06 Jul 2017 04:39 #3556

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I was totally wrong in my forecast of the election result.

I am really glad but sadden that rejection of a progressive alliance as allowed (see: Analysis by the democratic left group Compass found that the Tories could have lost 62 seats if the progressive vote had rallied behind a single opponent) the present extremist neoliberal Tories to survive.

It is possible for this to be the beginning of a new hope but I think all bet are still premature.
Still I have never be so glad to be an idiot :-)


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