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TOPIC: Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing: PART-1

Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing: PART-1 09 May 2017 14:08 #2395

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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 09 May 2017 14:34 #2396

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More 'Nanny State' for you :blink: Echidna . You would think they would want people 'high as a kite' as they would be easier to control?
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 09 May 2017 14:42 #2397

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I spoke to a lad years ago who reckoned he was on the sick due to his cannabis addiction,don't know how he managed to get the doctor or DWP to swallow that.Obviously there's every chance he was lying to me.
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 09 May 2017 14:52 #2399

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Well if you believe the media Gizajob, the strength of cannabis has increased over the years? So maybe the fella, wasn't lying :S .

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11414605/Super-strong-cannabis-responsible-for-quarter-of-new-psychosis-cases.html

www.livescience.com/53644-marijuana-is-stronger-now-than-20-years-ago.html
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 09 May 2017 15:12 #2401

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Australia is a Hell Hole if you are out of work; Poor; Have no savings, Its worse then the UK.
and the UK is the 2nd worst country in the world to live in.
With things so bad here, Its no wonder Drug use is at a all time high [ excuse the phun :pinch: ]
Around here Skunk is by far the best choice and very easey to get hold, I just pop in to the flats at the bottom of my street. :whistle:
Never done me any harm.......... I Think ;)
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 09 May 2017 16:21 #2404

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My post was more about how the DWP would pay someone who said they couldn't work because of their addiction to an illegal drug,I'm sure they wouldn't pay out if someone said they were to tired to work because they had been out all night robbing.
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 10 May 2017 03:10 #2411

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It is all about control or at least the "philosophy of control".
Keep the plebs too busy and too needy to have the time and energy for mischief.

The worrisome trend is that what has been experimented in Australia will be re-proposed over here, especially if there is a strong Tory government in place.
Bashing the poor and authoritarianism are the staple bread for these degenerated.
To eliminate unemployment one needs only to eliminate the unemployed
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 10 May 2017 11:47 #2421

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However, don’t schemes like this create their own self-fulfilling prophecies. Where these people don’t get the support they need to get off these drugs/medicines. And therefore have no alternative but to go deeper into crime to feed their habit/live? While on the whole I am talking about the Class A’s. Nevertheless, just look at the problems that sanctions have caused people, regardless if they have a drugs problem or not? :unsure:


www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/local/darlington/11552200.Sanctioned_man_who_stole_to_eat_is_jailed/
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 11 May 2017 12:52 #2443

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Trying to identify where welfare recipients are using drugs by testing wastewater is more likely to turn up results from affluent professionals, researchers say
www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/may/11/scott-morrisons-plan-to-test-sewage-for-drug-use-might-misfire-say-experts
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 11 May 2017 14:35 #2445

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Its beyond belief just what the australian government will do to smash the unemployed;
as paul stated a real hell hole country.
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 11 May 2017 14:50 #2448

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If a political party had the balls to legalise cannabis which is the least harmful substance compared to alcohol and tobacco, in fact evidence shows it has beneficial effects.

The savings alone in law enforcement would run into billions, it would also allow those who live on the fringes because they enjoy this natural wonder and alienated by the common herd to come in from the cold.

By legalising cannabis and allowing people to grow in their own homes would create a new cottage industry whereby any access can be sold on to pharmaceutical companies and customers, this would put another many billions into the government coffers.

The same laws that govern micro breweries could be employed and by its very nature a small grower with a decent strain could easily compete with larger companies.
I have smoked cannabis for 40 years and not blowing my own trumpet but I am healthier and fitter than most of my peers who drink alcohol.

I have lost 2 friends due to alcohol abuse and 1 due to alcohol related accident no one I know has ever been harmed by cannabis.
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 12 May 2017 14:06 #2478

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Lib Dems to back a 'regulated cannabis market' in UK
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39897999
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 12 May 2017 22:23 #2490

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echidna wrote:
Lib Dems to back a 'regulated cannabis market' in UK
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39897999

Must say they responded fast to my post, stuck between a party that will end sanctions and a party that will allow people to grow cannabis in their own homes.

As an award wining cannabis grower I will not need benefits if legalised and I can can become self sufficient overnight, so sanctions will become a moot point for me lol
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 12 May 2017 23:32 #2491

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Gizajob wrote:
My post was more about how the DWP would pay someone who said they couldn't work because of their addiction to an illegal drug,I'm sure they wouldn't pay out if someone said they were to tired to work because they had been out all night robbing.

Strangely enough, I was reading a thing in the UC regulations that (If I understood it correctly) basically said you can have 6 months off from jobsearching if you can prove you're addicted to drugs and/or alcohol, so long as you also attend AA/rehab and provide evidence that you're taking part.

Pass the bong :woohoo: :evil:
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 13 May 2017 10:50 #2500

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Maybe I could ask my work-roach if I can get some "LSD therapy", to help me get a job, as it seemed to help Cary Grant? :silly: . So maybe the 'federal budget' should be dispensing drugs instead of prohibition of them? :blink:

www.theguardian.com/film/2017/may/12/cary-grant-how-100-acid-trips-in-tinseltown-changed-my-life-lsd-documentary
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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 13 May 2017 11:26 #2501

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El-dudeareno wrote:
Maybe I could ask my work-roach if I can get some "LSD therapy", to help me get a job, as it seemed to help Cary Grant? :silly: . So maybe the 'federal budget' should be dispensing drugs instead of prohibition of them? :blink:

www.theguardian.com/film/2017/may/12/cary-grant-how-100-acid-trips-in-tinseltown-changed-my-life-lsd-documentary

All This reminds me of this Very Much Banned Song :whistle:

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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 13 May 2017 12:38 #2504

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I was thinking more of a Brave New World :silly:


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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 22 May 2017 14:44 #2698

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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 17 Aug 2017 10:57 #3985

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Welfare crackdown in federal budget sees jobseekers face drug-testing 17 Aug 2017 11:03 #3986

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i have known quite a few adicts in my life time all of them unemployed and when they get paid they spend what little they get that day and they are back to stealing and cheating the rest of the week all cuting there benifits are gona do is make then go out and steal even more to feed there habbit
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