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Self-Employed Universal Credit Claimants Told They're 'Better Off Jobless' 26 Nov 2017 12:51 #5057

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'.MATTHEW USHER HUFFPOST 28/10/2017

Self-employed welder Andy White from Norfolk was told by benefits advisors he would not be sanctioned if he chose to be unemployed
Self-employed people claiming in-work benefits through Universal Credit have been told by government advisors they’d be better off jobless, risking further turmoil for the crisis-hit benefit reform.

The shock advice emerged as thousands of sole traders, from window cleaners to hairdressers and others, move onto the flagship programme to receive entitlements such as working tax credits.

But the changes introduce demands so stringent some entrepreneurs are being told they may as well shut down their business and sign on to the dole, while others say strict rules have left them reliant on food banks and charity handouts.
In messages seen by HuffPost UK, one claimant was told by an official they “would not have a sanction applied” if he chose to end his trade and became unemployed.

Meanwhile one new business owner has just weeks to prove she earns a specified amount of profit before being forced to join the dole queue.

More Here;
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/self-employed-universal-credit_uk_59f1f8d5e4b077d8dfc7dce8
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Self-Employed Universal Credit Claimants Told They're 'Better Off Jobless' 27 Nov 2017 06:25 #5065

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At last! they are now telling the truth for once so therefore should surely stop ALL claimants from being hounded into self employment.

This is a very similar scenario when earnings are calculated using the 63% tax buffer on UC.

They were saying that wage/earnings are going to be stagnant for the next god knows how many years.

DWP and gov havent a clue when it comes to people running a business and is worrying as look at the state of the bloody country.People need to be making a real good profit to come off benefits and inmost cases would take years to create that situation if they were lucky enough to do so.

For anyone already self employed, just let your trade go into serious melt down put your prices up hugely then tell the twits down at JC you had to for it to be cost effective to survive, you know that word "SURVIVE" :evil:
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Self-Employed Universal Credit Claimants Told They're 'Better Off Jobless' 27 Nov 2017 13:20 #5075

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Similar stories on Channel Four news a few weeks ago about a female taxi driver and a self employed photographer. Both were told to `find other work` as their UC payments would stop after 12 months. The reason being, the government say they won`t take up the slack of a failing business. In other words, if your earnings don`t match what they perceive to be over a certain buffer, your out. I don`t know what this means for small enterprise ideas or those who want to be self employed. Universal Credit really is a backward move and this proves it.
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Self-Employed Universal Credit Claimants Told They're 'Better Off Jobless' 27 Nov 2017 21:46 #5083

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Similar stories on Channel Four news a few weeks ago about a female taxi driver and a self employed photographer. Both were told to `find other work` as their UC payments would stop after 12 months. The reason being, the government say they won`t take up the slack of a failing business. In other words, if your earnings don`t match what they perceive to be over a certain buffer, your out. I don`t know what this means for small enterprise ideas or those who want to be self employed. Universal Credit really is a backward move and this proves it.

i believe it's called the "earnings floor"which in laymans terms means if you choose to be self employed you must earn 35xwhatever the minimum wage is currently it's £7.50 for 25 year olds and over.new ventures get 12 months to achieve the floor existing ventures over 12 months will lose the working tax credit element when migrated over to universal credit
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Self-Employed Universal Credit Claimants Told They're 'Better Off Jobless' 28 Nov 2017 09:43 #5091

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That`s exactly correct evander. The minimum earnings floor. Total waste of time unless you have a good money spinning idea that won`t flatten out after a year.
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Self-Employed Universal Credit Claimants Told They're 'Better Off Jobless' 28 Nov 2017 13:42 #5097

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i know a few private hire drivers who after they have payed their weekly settle which is £170 only earn approx £100 and totally rely on working tax credits to top up their income if/when lose it they will be screwed and have little hope of finding alternative employment
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Self-Employed Universal Credit Claimants Told They're 'Better Off Jobless' 28 Nov 2017 15:11 #5100

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That`s very similar to the woman taxi driver who featured on the Channel Four news programme last week. She received a letter from Universal Credit stating `nil` income. She said she was just about living in the car she drove to make ends meet. She ended up claiming either ESA or PIP as her GP found her unfit in the end, so hopefully she`s managing better now, but chances are she was driven to despair by worrying and that had a knock on effect.
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Self-Employed Universal Credit Claimants Told They're 'Better Off Jobless' 10 Dec 2017 08:35 #5281

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"Self-Employed Universal Credit Claimants Told They're 'Better Off Jobless'

As are a lot currently in work doing mini wage jobs. :evil:
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