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May tells public to ‘celebrate’ privatization in NHS 24 May 2018 08:54 #7884

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May tells public to ‘celebrate’ privatization in NHS as Hawking campaign hits high court

Published time: 23 May, 2018 17:03

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Prime Minister Theresa May has said most people should “celebrate" the private sector’s impact on the NHS – on the same day a Stephen Hawking-backed campaign to stop privatisation of the health service reaches the high court.
May came under fire at PMQs from Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn, for what he sees as her Tory “government tearing up the founding principles of the NHS and putting private profit before public service.”

May retorted “we have made sure we remain true to the founding principle of the NHS that it is free at the point of delivery,” adding that even the former Labour Health Secretary Andy Burnham had supported the contribution of the private sector.

"The former Health minister, now the mayor for Manchester said the private sector puts its capacity into the NHS for the benefit of NHS patients, which I think most people in the country would celebrate,” she continued.

This and May’s claim that the Tories have put in extra funding since 2010, keeping the NHS “free at the point of use,” drew jeers from the opposition benches. Corbyn later proclaimed a somewhat uncomfortable truth for the Tories, that it was they who voted against the introduction of the NHS back in 1948.

It seems particularly pertinent that PMQs was dominated by the NHS, on a day when a campaign group, once backed by the late physicist Hawking, reaches the high court. JR4NHS, a group founded by three doctors and a university professor, has brought legal proceedings to challenge Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt’s plans to open up the NHS to increased involvement of private companies.

Before his death in March, Hawking had warned that the introduction of American-style accountable care organizations (ACOs), under the stewardship of Hunt, would see private companies run sections of the NHS and social services that would constitute an "attack on the fundamental principles of the NHS,” report AOL.

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www.rt.com/uk/427572-nhs-privatization-may-hawking/

This shows Exactly what the Bastard Government think of NHS Care for all;
They don't care, being Rich scum they have Private Health Care, And Damn the rest of us.
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May tells public to ‘celebrate’ privatization in NHS 24 May 2018 18:32 #7915

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Sorry but Corbyn needs to hang that old etonian Blair out to dry without further delay or it just gives the tories opportunities to point out the contrary nature of his party on this subject. I get the impression Burnham regrets his position a little but the leader should maybe think about bringing him closer for the purpose of resolving this if he thinks it is so important.

I was working in the NHS when labour foisted the condascending, patronising (and worse) Patricia Hewitt on the nation's health service. I am still amazed how that woman was not lynched for some of the crap she came out with, things have hardly calmed down since either. My instant thought has not changed in that it was setting things up on a plate for the tories who probably would have taken a bit longer before daring to try the same - as there would have been an expected strong opposition. They probably couldn't believe their luck at seeing a way out of raising tax to help the poor, except the poor themselves pay a lot of that tax willingly but not in the current manner.

Throwing more money at the NHS does not fix the problem and it will be perpetual to keep paying off the debts of the local trusts already seeing large towns merging emergency depts as a direct consequence. The plan always was to bring it to the point that only private money could save it as a selling point when the reality was they would love to see the virtual end of it as it won't be a 'National' health service when it is privatised.

The Hawking group might well be the last chance and no doubt May and her cronies think all they have to do is reassure people - and when the nation has no voice then that's more like having it confirmed a bit like a door to door salesman with the hard sell already talking in past tense like you already paid for the item. If that arrogance isn't enough to wake people up that they are virtually like many parts of America already then I don't know what is. Enter stage right: Donald Trump.

Free at point of delivery is taking the pee as also due to the debts you are hit by the cost of car parking going up before you get anywhere near the door and public transport has also consistently hiked in recent years.

Anybody remember Lloyd Grossman's damning views of the catering side, well nothing was done about that, hospital food was never fantastic but it used to be edible.

Corbyn isn't the problem, the party is not unifying behind him and this is a perfect opportunity for them to do so even if it is only on this one issue which doesn't have to be about ideology (if that is what is bothering some of them, it can be purely about finance). Let more money go directly to patient care and support services instead of it never actually getting near a hospital in the first place. And whilst at it review the pay of chief executives, we supposed to be in austerity aren't we. I would also like to see a declaration of all shares held by MPs in these so called health companies and treated as a conflict of interests, that would rattle a few cages.
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May tells public to ‘celebrate’ privatization in NHS 25 May 2018 14:48 #7949

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I don't appear to be able to edit a post atm so just to add this which shows how the government is playing games re: the NHS (you would have thought the PM would have discussed it with her own health secretary first):

'Her Majesty's Government has no plans to privatise the NHS' claim put forward by Jeremy Hunt:
www.thecanary.co/discovery/analysis-discovery/2018/05/24/the-snp-humiliates-jeremy-hunt-after-he-makes-a-jaw-dropping-claim-about-the-nhs/

Who the hell do they think they are kidding bringing it down to definitions? How can celebrating the use of private companies not be privatisation even if it is only semi-privatised? And if the govt are so against wholly privatising the NHS then why are they so keen to celebrate where it has been privatised? Which parts of the NHS are held sacred that they will not be privatised, don't we deserve to know? Whichever way you look at it, the NHS is in a state of being privatised even if that is not going to be taken any further which I guess is where the focus really should be concentrated among opposition MPs.

Basically the government's position is this: the public should celebrate privatisation in the NHS even though we have no plans to privatise it. Nothing like clear and precise leadership is there.

Update: my edit feature is back seems like it is just the previous post affected.
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