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One Twitter post opens the floodgates on the reality of zero-hours contracts 19 Nov 2018 23:06 #11282

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On 17 November, academic Dr Steve Garner took to Twitter to ask a question about his son’s new job. He was “horrified” about how his son’s new employer was treating him. And he asked if his son’s experience of working at a warehouse was “common”:

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My son's new job: he gets up before 5 to walk 45 mins for 6.00 shift in a warehouse. No buses. So far he's been sent home 4 times out of 8 because they already have enough ppl. They don't call, just wait until he and other un-needed workers arrive. I'm horrified. Is this common?

Garner seemed to describe the reality faced by some workers on zero-hours contracts (ZHCs). So this tweet opened up the floodgates for people to talk about the reality of life on ZHCs in Tory Britain.
ZHCs and employment conditions

A report by the House of Commons Library describes ZHCs to be:

A type of contract used by employers whereby workers have no guaranteed hours and agree to be potentially available for work… They may be used by companies seeking labour flexibility and by workers seeking flexibility around their other commitments.

As reported by the Office for National Statistics, between October and December 2017, there were 901,000 people on ZHCs, which made up 2.8% of all employed people in the UK. And the workers employed on ZHCs tended to be “young, part-time, or in full-time education”.

www.thecanary.co/trending/2018/11/19/one-twitter-post-opens-the-floodgates-on-the-reality-of-zero-hours-contracts-in-tory-britain/
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One Twitter post opens the floodgates on the reality of zero-hours contracts 20 Nov 2018 08:30 #11283

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See that the other day on Twitter and put me off a agency role especially as on Indeed you can check out the reviews from people who have worked for said company. The fact they never hounded me by phone i suspect there was prob no regular hours in any case. Used to do alot of agency work when on site and most of those i had no problem with. At times even when on the job they would come down and sort out paper work etc or id get a fax to them. None of this going into offices filling in forms for the sake of it for jobs that dont exist.
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One Twitter post opens the floodgates on the reality of zero-hours contracts 20 Nov 2018 12:22 #11286

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"BBC Reality Check asked the Office for National Statistics (ONS) whether working just one hour a week was all that was needed to be officially classified as employed?

The ONS told us it was actually one hour over two weeks.

Every three months, a large survey (known as the Labour Force Survey) is sent to approximately 90,000 people, selected at random. The ONS extrapolates the findings to produce employment bulletins.

A person will need to have worked at least one hour in the two weeks before the interview with the ONS takes place to be classified as employed. "

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46264291

I don't think the employment statistics mean what most people think they do.
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One Twitter post opens the floodgates on the reality of zero-hours contracts 20 Nov 2018 12:59 #11288

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To quote from the article:
So far he's been sent home 4 times out of 8 because they already have enough ppl. They don't call, just wait until he and other un-needed workers arrive. I'm horrified. Is this common?

I`m horrified too. Not so much that someone can (Under Universal Credit) work for a few hours and that`s it. But the draconian manner that people can be asked to attend a workplace each day to be SENT HOME with NO prior engagement from that employer to let them know if they will be required is just ridiculous, yet here we are in a situation where it`s been allowed to happen. The lad in question is able to walk to this warehouse, but what about people who have to PAY to get there? I`m guessing they have to do this out of their own pockets and are not reimbursed that money if they are turned away?

This country has gone to the dogs, literally.
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One Twitter post opens the floodgates on the reality of zero-hours contracts 20 Nov 2018 13:08 #11289

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makes me think of Mexicans who stand around on street corners waiting to get work as unskilled labour, they turn up with no guarentee of work and hang around hopeing someone will come by and give them work for the day.
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One Twitter post opens the floodgates on the reality of zero-hours contracts 20 Nov 2018 13:19 #11292

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TheFinnster wrote:
makes me think of Mexicans who stand around on street corners waiting to get work as unskilled labour, they turn up with no guarentee of work and hang around hopeing someone will come by and give them work for the day.

This is like a throw back to the "Hiring Halls" In America, Down on the Dock side hundreds of men would turn up around 7am 7 days a week in the hope of getting a days work, As Portrayed in the old Brando Movie "On The Waterfront" Everything is going Backwards. :ohmy:
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One Twitter post opens the floodgates on the reality of zero-hours contracts 20 Nov 2018 21:55 #11321

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This is great to see we have someone with high intelect telling those planks just how it really is.

Maybe some deluded tax payers will see its not so much fun after all being shoved into ANY old rice grain paying job.
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"makes me think of Mexicans who stand around on street corners waiting to get work as unskilled labour, they turn up with no guarentee of work and hang around hopeing someone will come by and give them work for the day." This was apparently taking place a few years ago Finnister in london collecting people up for hard labor on building sites.Contracts managers made a bloody fortune out of this little scam.And the tories will just call it good business. :evil:

TW35"None of this going into offices filling in forms for the sake of it for jobs that dont exist.""
My latest line of thought if i ever have to deal with these £sharks. When contacting me; i now tell them that 'if i am going to go 20 mile over the other side of town and back to fill in a form, have a chat and a crap cuppa' then they will need to send me the fuel/bus money first! or i want it in writing thats whats going to happen.I aint moving a foot for any of these 'companies. at my expense:evil: '

This also goes for joke shop which is actually alllowed if htey suggest you have to attend an agency in x town etc and outside of a signing day RECLAIM RECLAIM RECLAIM :) ;)

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One Twitter post opens the floodgates on the reality of zero-hours contracts 21 Nov 2018 13:45 #11337

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Dont know what the hell is wrong with my PC but my keyboards going nuts! along with me :cheer:
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One Twitter post opens the floodgates on the reality of zero-hours contracts 21 Nov 2018 13:59 #11342

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"makes me think of Mexicans who stand around on street corners waiting to get work as unskilled labour, they turn up with no guarentee of work and hang around hopeing someone will come by and give them work for the day." This was apparently taking place a few years ago Finnister in london collecting people up for hard labor on building sites.Contracts managers made a bloody fortune out of this little scam.And the tories will just call it good business. :evil:
I still have a few friends in the building trade who have told me this is still happening in London, but not as visible as before...
Flotsam: People who are considered to be worthless or to have been rejected by society.
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One Twitter post opens the floodgates on the reality of zero-hours contracts 21 Nov 2018 14:06 #11344

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jobber wrote: Dont know what the hell is wrong with my PC but my keyboards going nuts! along with me

Don`t combust jobber, we need you! :lol:
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One Twitter post opens the floodgates on the reality of zero-hours contracts 21 Nov 2018 16:39 #11352

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Hi Tarquin,

There is a new breed on the block rounding up the sheep for all sectors"recruitment agencies :whistle: :evil: "
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One Twitter post opens the floodgates on the reality of zero-hours contracts 21 Nov 2018 17:16 #11353

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The real reason for Universal Credit was to have an employment pool containing millions of workers for temporay work with no rights.
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