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Water on benefits 11 Feb 2018 20:33 #6139

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To be honest here I have never actually EVER paid for water, I put all letter that are not brown into the bin.

I am finding it difficult to know roughly what a single person in a flat would pay, I know there are meters nowadays but I just cannot fathom what I would be paying.

The reason is I am doing a calculation for a average person single person 25 and over and would like to know how it would pan out if I added water to the equation.
JSA                                          £73.00 pw

Gas and Electric                  £20.00 pw

Rates                                    £3.50 pw

Water                                      ? pw

Budgeting loan                 £7.50 pw      

Internet/phone                  £5.00 pw

Sundries                            £8.00 pw

Travel to job centre           £5.00

Tobacco                              £5.00

Total so far £49 leaving £23 per week for food that is without water anything I might have missed out apart from emergencies and finding a extra  £5.00 for travel should they secure a job opportunity.
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Water on benefits 12 Feb 2018 07:27 #6140

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For a person Like me with a water meter, it works out at around £12 a month.
Meters are much cheaper for a single person, For a Family with kids would be a nightmare.
And you can cut costs with a meter, :)
Collect rainwater to flush the bog, shower once a week if you need it or not;
Wash small amounts of clothing by hand as washing machines use tons of water [And electricity].
I always look for ways to cut costs. ;)
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Water on benefits 12 Feb 2018 14:12 #6143

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In Scotland dboy water rates/charges are added to our Council Tax. So a % of that is calculated into what we pay monthly/annually. But Scotland does not charge people for water metres/usage, but for the maintenance and the pipes to our homes etc...
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Water on benefits 13 Feb 2018 10:59 #6157

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united utilities rinse me for £60 quid a month and i have no arrears.
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Water on benefits 13 Feb 2018 14:20 #6162

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evander wrote:
united utilities rinse me for £60 quid a month and i have no arrears.
Wow, i looked on my supplier severn trent and it looks around 800 a year but i thought there might be a reduction for unemployed, but no only for those in special circumstances but if your figure is that and your unemployed then how the heck if i add that to my math could I eat :unsure:
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Water on benefits 13 Feb 2018 15:04 #6164

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if you dont own your own place i would carry on as you are because by law they cant turn domestic supplies off and they cant take you to court and put a charge on the property if you dont own it and if you ever do contact them for whatever reason do not let them know you are in receipt of benefits as they can and will apply to the dwp to take massive payments from your benefit even if it means leaving you with hardly anything left to live on
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Water on benefits 13 Feb 2018 15:05 #6165

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It`s shocking what is going on down there (England I mean) that water companies can hold people to account if they can`t afford water. I`m sure the last time I checked our water charges were something like £119 a year? But those are discounted through the council tax and what we pay relating to income. Our CT didn`t rise last year, but fully expecting it to this year due to council cuts. It`s dire what`s going on. People are demanding higher pay, but at the same time, services are crashing under pressure.
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Water on benefits 13 Feb 2018 15:31 #6167

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It`s shocking what is going on down there (England I mean) that water companies can hold people to account if they can`t afford water. I`m sure the last time I checked our water charges were something like £119 a year? But those are discounted through the council tax and what we pay relating to income. Our CT didn`t rise last year, but fully expecting it to this year due to council cuts. It`s dire what`s going on. People are demanding higher pay, but at the same time, services are crashing under pressure.
Yep and with rocketing food and good prices, my local Tesco has at least added 10%-20% on too all its food products in the last few weeks.

And benefits remain frozen.until 2020 I think but how the heck can a single person on JSA survive if you look at my weekly outgoings and factor in water.

That is why I do not pay water nor council tax, I cannot pay debts is different to wont pay debts let them take me to court.

I have nothing they can take away, i plan to have nothing in the future, hand to mouth but survive.

Happy with nothing, only thing I want is contentment and that means thinking differently and that costs nothing.
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Water on benefits 13 Feb 2018 16:22 #6171

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dboy wrote: I cannot pay debts is different to wont pay debts let them take me to court.

That's exactly the point dboy. If people CAN`T pay based on their minimum income, they shouldn`t be paying at all. But yet they say council tax is not covered by benefits and everyone is expected to pay it? :huh: Maybe by standing at the end of the street with a cardboard sign saying, "can you help pay my council tax or I will be jailed`. It`s an absolute disgrace. It should be based on the ability to PAY, not drag people to court for non payment because they don`t HAVE the money. :angry:
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Water on benefits 13 Feb 2018 16:51 #6172

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dboy wrote:
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united utilities rinse me for £60 quid a month and i have no arrears.
Wow, i looked on my supplier severn trent and it looks around 800 a year but i thought there might be a reduction for unemployed, but no only for those in special circumstances but if your figure is that and your unemployed then how the heck if i add that to my math could I eat :unsure:

dboy, there is a reduction for the unemployed as i contacted my supplier 18 months ago was paying £22 a month and now pay £10 so worth the conversation with your water company,i also live alone.
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Water on benefits 13 Feb 2018 17:07 #6173

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jobber wrote:
dboy wrote:
evander wrote:
united utilities rinse me for £60 quid a month and i have no arrears.
Wow, i looked on my supplier severn trent and it looks around 800 a year but i thought there might be a reduction for unemployed, but no only for those in special circumstances but if your figure is that and your unemployed then how the heck if i add that to my math could I eat :unsure:

dboy, there is a reduction for the unemployed as i contacted my supplier 18 months ago was paying £22 a month and now pay £10 so worth the conversation with your water company,i also live alone.
hmm maybe there different schemes for different areas, the only thing I could see was water sure or something but you needed to be in exceptional circumstances to be eligible, still that is good information if you are paying water on benefits and get a discount just by the fact.

I really do only look at dole letters I always throw anything else away, out of sight out of mind no worry less stress, they cannot imprison me, turn off my supply or any such nonsense only thing they could do is affect my non existent credit rating so I will never pay till the day they can extract it from my benefits without my permission.


I have no fear of debt collectors toothless as they are and bailiffs got nothing to take so I am better off not paying it......
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Water on benefits 27 Mar 2018 19:00 #6680

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the only help united utilities have on offer to the sick,disabled,unemployed etc is to apply to the dwp and take payments from benefits direct
does anybody know what the maximum amount they can take each week from my benefit is?
just got my latest bill and it's getting out of control so im thinking of going down the direct deduction route
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Water on benefits 28 Mar 2018 09:47 #6686

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i am on jsa i live with my son in a small flat. i pay £24 a month (water meter) i contacted Yorkshire water, and told them my circumstances,the only thing the could offer me was a water saving kit,which they sent free of charge,consisting of tap filters ect, which i never used,
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Water on benefits 28 Mar 2018 21:30 #6696

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When I was on JSA a few years ago, I fell into arrears with my water bill as it was not on my list of priority bills to pay. I was getting a constant barrage of letters demanding payments. After a bit of research online, I found out that my particular water company had a 'Charitable Trust' to help people who were experiencing difficulties, which was a surprise to me as it wasn't advertised at all. Not all water companies do this, mine was South Staffs Water. I sent off for a form which was basically filling in your incoming and outgoings. Sent mine off and was surprised when they wrote back saying that my debt was now 'written off' I think I owed in excess of £800. You can only do this once though. I had a meter installed as I live alone and am finding it much better.
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Water on benefits 29 Mar 2018 00:03 #6699

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Mine also has the charitable trust option once and had to enquire to find this out, some do, some don't. Yet another example of UK postcode lottery. My benefits got sorted out in time when I was preparing to have to go through all that so I am very interested to hear yours got written off smudge as there was no clear conclusion I was aware of.
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Water on benefits 29 Mar 2018 00:37 #6700

Haven't paid my water bill for about 2 years now. I used to have money I owed them taken away from my JSA which was about £20 a month, which stopped after my JSA was suspended for a couple of weeks. The reductions in my JSA didn't continue once my claim was back on track again and I decided not to bother anymore after reading on the old UM about not having to pay as they can't cut you off! Yes I get the letters from the water suppliers demanding payment, followed by some inept debt collection agency after they get no joy, but I just put those in the shredder. They often call too (it's an automated call) but I just ignore those calls. No idea how much I owe them now...
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Water on benefits 29 Mar 2018 10:13 #6706

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The Whole Idea of paying for Water is Madness as if falls from the Sky Free,
Soon as I can go Of-Grid, cut the Pipeline and catch Rainwater, As we sure get a hell of a lot of it. :)
One can also build ones own Sewage system, use a Composting Toilet,
a zillion ways to say NO to Water payments.
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