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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 27 Jul 2017 07:27 #3786

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SEP 2015 Sunday 20TH posted by Morning Star in Editorial

We cannot tolerate generals saying they would take "direct action" against an elected British leader
THREATS from a senior general that the army would take “direct action” against a Jeremy Corbyn government show a jaw-dropping contempt for British democracy.

Top brass “wouldn’t stand for” a prime minister committed to international peace, we learn in the Sunday Times, and would be prepared to use “fair means or foul” to stop a PM who “jeopardise the security of this country.”

The outspoken military chief remains anonymous, of course.

But where is the chorus of condemnation we should be hearing from all parties concerned with Britain’s future as a democratic society, with the people’s right to determine our military and foreign policies accepted by all?

After all, why should the military get to define what constitutes a “threat to our national security”?

www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-c003-Army-threats-against-Corbyn-are-an-affront-to-democracy#.WXmG94jysb4
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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 27 Jul 2017 11:46 #3788

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The words we use today "help a hero" "our soldiers" etc etc are made up by the same department from George Orwells 1984 to make us believe "our soldiers" are protecting us. Well to some extent they well might be but on the nod of the higher authorities in government would turn and kill their own people , obey orders.
History shows this from the civil war , the peterloo massacre , northern Ireland, and even the miners strike dressed as coppers.
The only way the rich can hold on to power and wealth is having an army and have the poor sign up to it and pay for it whilst at the same time spin it out they are there to protect us.
I think the poor of our land could survive who ever invaded our country as not a lot would change really as we would still be poor and starving . The rich on the other hand would lose everything .
Where ever the British army has gone in the world it has ended in disaster . You could ask the native Indian of America, the native aboriginal of Australia the Zulu of South Africa and the partitioned states of India and Ireland has the British army been a force for good ? Well we know what they would say dont we.
Dont forget too that it was us that declared war on Germany and the saying "least we forget" was changed to that by Churchill from
"let us not forget" as he deemed this latter would be changed by the public to "let us not forget we started the war" spin even then ! !. The excuse for going to war then was the invasion of Poland and look at us now cant wait to throw them all out of here.
No do not think the army is on your side, it aint, and wait and see when the big riots start you wont be using the term "save our heros" you will be being smashed to pieces by them.
Mark my words.
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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 27 Jul 2017 12:50 #3789

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And we see this happen during demonstrations on the streets against government action that we, the public didn`t vote for. How dare we, as mere mortals, protest and shout about change when all they do is turn against us using aggressions and tactics that mean our voices are never heard or it makes any difference. We are supposed to be in charge as voters, yet I often wonder why many people don`t vote. I`m slowly beginning to understand that mindset and be more of an anarchistic thinker. Government are there to rule, to bully and to deny us freedom. We may think we are free, but try pissing off the work coach and see what the end result is? Sanction, stress, more sanctions and who wins? THEY do. We, the drones, are just numbers.
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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 27 Jul 2017 13:27 #3790

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ah dear comply we would make good company, where would we start tho ! !
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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 27 Jul 2017 15:01 #3793

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The military are tools for the ruling classes to be used against us should we get a bit uppity. Trained killers are they who, on an order will shoot us down like paper targets.
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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 28 Jul 2017 08:54 #3799

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We start by being ahead of the game nemesis. I`ve come to the belief that when we are sent on courses or asked to jump through DWP hoops, there are manageable ways of staying on the right side of the fence, keeping our payments and staying in control. Participating in these brain dead schemes is one tactic and just being there, doing your best and say to yourself, sod it. I`m here. That`s what they want, but it means I`m engaging and not placing barriers up. That`s when they win. But while we participate, we also pull our own tactics and use our common sense to only carry out what we feel is important. I have pain issues so I fully use that against most of their games.

I got a voting form through the door the other day checking to see if anything in the household had changed. Nothing has, so I just had to sign it and date it and post it back in the pre-paid envelope. But something on the front page caught my eye. It stated something along the lines of, "This is not a registration form, but failing to complete it can/will lead to a fine of up to £1,000"....

This really pissed me off. What if I decided never to vote again? If I chose NOT to return this form to `engage` with their protocol of checking who lived in the house? What would happen I wonder? I imagine my voting cards would fail to arrive or I would be sent another form stating I MUST return this form to be eligible to vote? Who knows. I just don`t like the way they word things as it sounds menacing.
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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 28 Jul 2017 10:51 #3800

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I could have wrote the same Comply. Yes we on here are one step ahead all the time, we can see end games, and we help each other through advice and support and lift that shield of justice for every one.
Its the ones that have not got that same fight and are vulnerable and are bullied by authority I come on here to support hoping they can stand up to the tyrants .

I had one of those postal election letters to fill in and return and also noticed the big brother warning of a fine if not returned.
Well mine went in the bin.
Anyway about a month later around 7pm my doorbell rang and I looked out my window, I live on a first floor, and theres this lad with clipboard in his hand and some badge round his neck and i shouted yeah what you want he said he was from the electoral roll office and wanted me to fill my registration as they had not received mine and was here to help me.
F*** off I said . He said you can be fined for not returning it, . Piss off I said. He then said you can go to prison also. I said oh wait there then I will be down in a minute. Packed a bag went down to him opened the door and said come on then take me to prison. HAHAHA.
Still waiting.
They would not do this, sending you to prison, as the prisons would be full of everyone who is fed up of the establishment and would gladly spend a month at the tax payers expense in the nick.
Catch you later.
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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 28 Jul 2017 14:23 #3801

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:lol: That made me laugh nemesis! Just the sort of reply I would give. I hate anyone coming to my door and usually I have a stern look on my face so they tend to feel the energy emanating from that. Even on election day, if I haven`t yet been to vote, we get these people with fluorescent waistcoats on walking down the street to knock on the doors of people who haven`t been shown to attend. Why? I thought in the UK voting wasn`t mandatory? If it was, we would all be posted letters in red writing stating we were being fined. I`ve always voted, so don`t know what the consequences (if any) would be if I thought sod it, I`m not going to bother this time. I`m wondering if being on their register has more than voting purposes behind it? Knowing who we are, where we stay, who lives with us and basically information data base....
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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 28 Jul 2017 15:27 #3803

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Anyone can find you if your on the electoral register and I mean anyone , its a danger and would love to vote but not have my details known to the world and his wife ! !
Again its a way to stop the vote from the poor as most dont want to be found or hunted by bailiffs and sheriffs .
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nemesis-3 wrote;
The only way the rich can hold on to power and wealth is having an army and have the poor sign up to it and pay for it whilst at the same time spin it out they are there to protect us.
I think the poor of our land could survive who ever invaded our country as not a lot would change really as we would still be poor and starving . The rich on the other hand would lose everything .
Where ever the British army has gone in the world it has ended in disaster . You could ask the native Indian of America, the native aboriginal of Australia the Zulu of South Africa and the partitioned states of India and Ireland has the British army been a force for good ? Well we know what they would say dont we.
Dont forget too that it was us that declared war on Germany and the saying "least we forget" was changed to that by Churchill from
"let us not forget" as he deemed this latter would be changed by the public to "let us not forget we started the war" spin even then ! !. The excuse for going to war then was the invasion of Poland and look at us now cant wait to throw them all out of here.


Very much agree churchill Did start ww-2
Read the book The british mad dog, That the elite are trying to cover up true historical events.
www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/British-Mad-Dog-Debunking-Myth-Winston-Churchill/1530657741/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501253286&sr=8-1&keywords=the+british+mad+dog

you will be shocked by what you learn.
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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 28 Jul 2017 19:39 #3807

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Yeah will do T2 . How are you long time no see. You still doing things for the good .
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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 29 Jul 2017 09:23 #3815

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It`s all a smokescreen really. The population are brought up to live under this belief that government are there to keep us safe, to do right by us, yet here we are using food banks because they say the best way out of poverty is WORK. Many people, no matter how hard they try, will never FIND a job due to age/disability, illness, work gaps or just sheer discrimination.

I`m 52 now and long for something to change in the welfare system that makes sense. I can`t see a light at the end of the tunnel for the over 50`s/60`s in this hellish system except to get on with each day/week/month as it arises and deal with things best we can. Opposing anything we can`t do or fighting our corner where necessary.
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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 29 Jul 2017 12:32 #3820

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Hi T2 nice to see you on here again; That book looks really interesting, cannot afford to buy, Torys have shut down local Library :angry:
but will have a look around for a copy; I have heard a Lot of Bad things about Churchill Not a hero by any means it appears.
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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 30 Jul 2017 04:44 #3827

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One has to travel far from an ever-pressing exercise in kowtowing
To find something that give one's existence a sense
But one has to travel even further to become so dense
To think that can powers' exist to be benevolence bestowing...



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To eliminate unemployment one needs only to eliminate the unemployed
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Army Threats Against Corbyn Are An Affront To Democracy 30 Jul 2017 11:10 #3831

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And It has happened in the past;

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And Just look what has Happened in Australia!

;Australia seeks to expand role of military in domestic terror threats
17 July 2017

Australian PM Turnbull announced the proposed measures in Sydney
The Australian military is to be given broad new powers to respond to domestic terrorist attacks.
The government-proposed changes to national security laws are part of a review into counter-terrorism.
The new measures would mean the Australian Defence Force (ADF) could be called in sooner to help police deal with threats.
They were prompted by criticism of the speed with which police responded to the 2014 siege in a cafe in Sydney.
Current legislation prevents police from calling on the ADF until they have reached the limit of their capability or capacity.
Under the new measures, the military would also provide specialised training to police forces.
At a press conference, Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said he was "taking a lot of the red tape and the gum out of the works to enable the cooperation between the police and the ADF".


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Australia is a country that tries to punch above its weight in the world. It always wants to be in the news and will talk the talk with the west but its problem is its way in the south far away from all the big shots. No one is interested in attacking them cos they aint got nothing to attack, only people. They get attacked only because they shout their big gobs off when something happens up here with words of "we are with you" "we will help you and together we will beat the terrorists" bullshit rhetoric .
Its a type of country that would start crying if they wernt invited to join in a war ! !
Who the f*** is interested in Australia ! !
Cannon fodder at Gallipoli because they were thick enough to join in, pricks.
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Was watching RT news last night and saw what was happening to Venezuela. Those poor sods now have a leader and government that won`t provide medical treatment and people are desperate and starving, they are raiding fast food left overs from bins. :( The students wear masks and attack and protest when possible, but are met with rubber bullets, water cannon and tear gas. So much for voting....I hope something changes in that country soon and their pig faced leader is removed. It`s sickening to watch what`s going on around the world yet who the hell is doing anything about it? F all.....
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..............news last night and saw what was happening to Venezuela,

Power corrupts , Absolute power corrupts absolutely
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Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely definition. An observation that a person's sense of morality lessens as his or her power increases. The statement was made by Lord Acton, a British historian of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries.
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