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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 07 Feb 2019 15:17 #13866

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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM
Tonight, Richard Bacon explores the impact of Universal Credit and meets some of those receiving the benefit
www.itv.com/news/2019-02-07/life-on-benefits-universal-credit/
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 07 Feb 2019 16:41 #13889

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The Tonight show on ITV at 7:30pm until 8:00pm is all about Universal Credit.
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 07 Feb 2019 17:47 #13893

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yes just seen it in tv guide,
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 07 Feb 2019 18:54 #13897

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Merged Double Post: Could members Check A subject has not already recently been posted, Before they Post. :) ADMIN:
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 08 Feb 2019 09:20 #13904

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Well Just watched it, Nothing New, just a rehash of what we all have known for far to long,
And It will cont its relentless roll out, with the Tory's Ignoring the Growing Death rate as a result. :angry:
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 08 Feb 2019 09:39 #13906

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R Bacon what a B end. After watching that im sure some still think we all want to be on benefit. See a Fibro sufferer had her money cut drastically. Def agree if a joint claim the money should be righfully split as controlling partners would clearly take advantage. Something i never thought of but the amount of money thats gone into this crap there are no excuses. 2 billion i think it said.
Also the waiting a month for money and trying to draw comparrison that empployers pay monthly is tosh. Whilst many employers do this plenty do not and if it was the case you cant magic money out of thin air so it would prevent someone returning to work so the change to every 2 weeks surely is a no brainer but for the incompetent powers that b that is just to simple.
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 08 Feb 2019 09:56 #13912

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Those 'shows' tend to highlight the predicament of a small number of claimants and dramatize their reports to make the whole thing into a soap type 'show'.

I would like to see more of DWP ministers and civil service decision makers given the sort of grilling that the claimants are subjected to and a clear insight given into how and why they make their decisions and take the actions that they do.

They could start by asking; Why, when there are thousands of examples out there of UC claimants suffering hardship and mental anguish, even dying or killing themselves, do those ministers and civil servants continue to support policies, make the decisions and take the actions that they are fully aware of and know will lead to hardship, anguish and death.

Nothing will change as a result of that ‘show’ which, of course was not the intention. On that analysis, therefore, I think it was a load of crap.
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 08 Feb 2019 09:58 #13913

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TW wrote: 2 billion i think it said.

Yes, correct TW. Can you imagine how better that money could have been spent on homelessness and local community projects instead of throwing it at a system which with all good intentions, has become a nail in the coffin for many and meant real hardship for others.

The claimant who has Fibro shouldn`t have to be thinking that her daughter would be better off with another family because the system has made her doubt her own self worth. And then we have the government saying they understand mental health? When THEY are the cause of claimants anxieties. How many more documentaries do we need to see before things chance? Although I doubt they ever will.
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 08 Feb 2019 14:27 #13928

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Benefit Bolshie, some very good and appropriate questions that ITV could themselves have put forward seeing as they did actually put some questions to the DWP.

Whilst it was positive that they included the Leigh Day solicitor from the recent high court case, this particular matter should have been presented more fully and detailed in a longer programme (and cancel the soaps for some reality) so that anybody considering taking a job right now had as much info to hand as possible. It is that we only ever get parts of a story from the media which has always made me suspicious of them. But then I am one of those awkward individuals with an analytical mind that people with power do not like. Oh to be blissfully ignorant like a potato on a couch.

I would say the point of the programme was to show that the television company is seen as compassionate without requiring anybody to use their grey matter by questioning things in a similar way you have demonstrated. It would be a nice start in that direction if they could remove ads from their online platform as they already receive the revenue from the ones on their terrestrial broadcasts, something I put to them after they requested I disable my adblocker for their site. You can skip through the various parts of the programmes but have to watch every second of the ads. I mean which is the most important? So they actually do know something about money and value even if they come across as a bunch of thickos.
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 08 Feb 2019 14:41 #13936

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Verc wrote: But then I am one of those awkward individuals with an analytical mind that people with power do not like. Oh to be blissfully ignorant like a potato on a couch.

Love it Verc! I think we all feel this way because if we don`t stay ahead of this twisted game they play, it`s us who suffer the consequences.

And this - (and cancel the soaps for some reality)

This programme should have been give a full HOUR slot. Dispatches on Channel Four and now Panorama on the BBC are only allowed half hour slots too now. What we need now more than ever is a two hour debate on UC and the negative effects it has and still is causing and the sheer lack of government admissions of guilt that they know this but won`t stop it.
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 08 Feb 2019 14:47 #13939

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Universal Credit hell means my kid would be better off being in care
Emma makes the heartbreaking comments to Richard Bacon for a ITV's Tonight programme at 7.30pm, which will explore whether Universal Credit actually brings on financial hardship.
www.thesun.co.uk/money/8376942/universal-credit-hell-means-my-kid-would-be-better-off-being-in-care/
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 08 Feb 2019 17:21 #13970

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Re: the comments in the Sun link:

Me being me, I didn't see an issue with that lady's size or that she had a dog and a child as picked up on in a lot of the comments. So maybe I got the motives of ITV a little wrong. Make someone look idle with lots of possessions whilst claming benefits, how original.

What I did pick up on was Emma had been working and didn't get diagnosed with Fibromyalgia straight away. So she has not been on benefits with a disability for long and as I keep saying THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE! Even the lad from a well off background was struggling and they usually keep stuff like that to themselves. Also going without food affects your metabolism, your mental faculties and your appearance. People making assumptions, jumping to conclusions and dishing out the poison from their bitter minds= Britain today. I wonder how much the presenter got paid just for doing this programme which didn't tell us anything new and how much this affects his Universal Credit.

Something else I forgot to mention was through direct experience; Christians against poverty will only help if you are at least in receipt of benefits. This is because it is all focussed around debt management and you have too have money of some sort coming in to pay things. I couldn't tell you if that involves them lending money though. This was in the early days of UC but I think it is quite obvious now that even the greatest economists they might have at the church would have great difficulty budgeting when you have one of those months when the irregular payments dips below your outgoings. So I cannot see how they can be much practical help. I remember having a good laugh with the woman who dealt with my nil income claim at the council when I told her that I was turned down by that charity as I had had all my benefits stopped. Poverty is relative after all.
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 08 Feb 2019 17:56 #13971

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Verc wrote: I didn't see an issue with that lady's size or that she had a dog and a child as picked up on in a lot of the comments

This sort always look for the beedin obvious though Verc. They love to leave their snide comments all the same from their observations. They should all get jobs with Atos. People out there suffering under these radical changes start to realise their lives are slowly being eroded in one way or another. Be that less money, debt, not managing to budget because they get that monthly `lump sum` as pointed out in last nights programme. Not everyone on UC will divide that monthly sum into 4 equal weeks and choose to spend more in one month than another and then find their rent has a shortfall or they forgot to pay something. It can happen to anyone.
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 08 Feb 2019 18:50 #13974

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Not easy to exercise when you got chronic pain plus you can easily over do it and not feel the bugger until the next day when you are layed up. Plenty of reasons why the woman could of been over weight, Fibro, meds depression, comfort eating to name a few. As you rightly said Verc anyone can be struck down by illness and need the welfare system.
Those who point the finger at others are in for a shock if they ever do.
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Life on Benefits: Universal Credit? ITV tonight 7.30 PM 09 Feb 2019 09:07 #13979

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TW35 wrote: Those who point the finger at others are in for a shock if they ever do.

Which is possibly why we are seeing an escalation in UC documentary and news coverage now because more people (working or with a partner and needing to claim because of a circumstance change) have already had that shock and don`t like it one little bit. Welcome to our world. It`s growing bigger by the minute.
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