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It’s official: the DWP’s flagship policy could be scrapped by Labour 07 Oct 2018 23:30 #10418

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The Department for Work and Pensions’ (DWP) flagship benefit Universal Credit is in yet more trouble. Because a Labour government could scrap it. This is according to shadow chancellor John McDonnell. Although his pledge was a bit ’round the houses’.
The DWP: in hot water

During an interview with Sky News on Sunday 7 October, McDonnell explained that he had been “listening to people” recently, and hearing about Universal Credit’s roll out. He said that:

most people now have come to the conclusion it’s got to be scrapped.

He said that government reforms “haven’t worked”; that it wasn’t “sustainable” and that it couldn’t “work”, and that it wasn’t providing the “safety net” people need. He said:

I think we’re moving to a position now where it’s just not sustainable. It’ll have to go. If there were reforms that could be effective, fair enough, let’s reform. But we’ve looked and looked, and we can’t see that either government proposals or other proposals could reform it. The system is… in shambles…

We’re moving towards a conclusion, now… you can’t save the thing. It’s got to go.

www.thecanary.co/trending/2018/10/07/its-official-the-dwps-flagship-policy-could-be-scrapped-by-labour/
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It’s official: the DWP’s flagship policy could be scrapped by Labour 10 Oct 2018 20:30 #10486

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I'd like Corbyn's merry men to say "will be scrapped" under Labour. :)
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It’s official: the DWP’s flagship policy could be scrapped by Labour 10 Oct 2018 22:19 #10491

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Just saying they will scrap it isn't enough either. Political promises are not worth the paper they are written on. In order to win back trust and not just get elected out of desperation as seems to have been the case back and forth between labour and conservative for the last half century during which time unemployment has remained high regardless - now that this benefit impacts some of the workforce as well - a detailed plan needs to be presented which shows exactly why UC has to be scrapped and how they will go about doing it given that the system is in such chaos and that elements of the legacy benefits are already in a state of shutting down and might not be so easy to resuscitate as some seem to think.

If UC is fully rolled out by the time labour get back in then they would pretty much have to do the equivalent of recreating the welfare state and I am not convinced they would be capable of that even if the genuine will to do so was actually there and after their attitude towards benefits last time I am not too convinced about that either.
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It’s official: the DWP’s flagship policy could be scrapped by Labour 11 Oct 2018 10:08 #10504

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Verc wrote: If UC is fully rolled out by the time labour get back in then they would pretty much have to do the equivalent of recreating the welfare state and I am not convinced they would be capable of that

All they could do Verc is remove the conditionality from UC (sanctions and meaningless directions) and allow a fairer system to apply. Meaning, if people apply for jobs and manage to find some work, just allow that to flow and adjust the taper rate to a lower amount than removing 67p from every £ earned to allow people to earn more. Balance things a bit more in favour of work and remove the negativity. As time moves on and work/productivity changes, finding a decent job now, especially if your over 50 won`t be easy anyway, so any small amount we can earn should be applauded, even if it`s only a few hours of work a week. It`s better than nothing. It would also make UC feel more like a basic universal income to all while thinking about doing those few hours and keeping some of their UC cash in the endeavour to achieve without the carrot and stick approach. The Tories just can`t do that though, can they.
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It’s official: the DWP’s flagship policy could be scrapped by Labour 12 Oct 2018 00:20 #10517

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Exactly, simplify UC after all that was what it was supposed to be a simple benefit policy devised by a very simple man. Clearly UC was just the latest hoops and fences designed to trip people up as much as possible and that was what they really meant by simple as in so easy to get away with.
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It’s official: the DWP’s flagship policy could be scrapped by Labour 14 Oct 2018 10:46 #10542

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"Labour has rowed back from its pledge to scrap the troubled universal credit benefits shake-up, suggesting it might simply rework it – and change its name.

Shami Chakrabarti, the shadow attorney general, described John McDonnell’s vow to axe the new system – made just one week ago – as “dramatic language” that sounded like “a change of policy”.

“Whether you end up changing the name of a benefit, or changing the structure of a benefit, in the end what’s important is the end of austerity and people having the money they need to live,” she told Sky News."

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-universal-credit-benefit-system-scrap-rework-rename-john-mcdonnell-shami-chakrabarti-a8583241.html
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It’s official: the DWP’s flagship policy could be scrapped by Labour 14 Oct 2018 13:59 #10544

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The political 'elite' will lie through their teeth to the electorate just to get into power whatever it takes and as we all know,once in give us a 2 finger sign while they carry on their merry way filling their piggy banks and stocking up for their fat cat pension pot.

The tories once blabbed "Were all in this together" NO WE ARE NOT :) :whistle: :evil:

I personally will vote for Labour as they have the best chance of getting in out all other parties but they will just be the same with bottomless promises.

Never see a government yet whos actually done something positive to have a good effect on the average man or woman.It use to be the tax allowance and now we have bloody wages to match it. :evil: :whistle:
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