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Watch out - Workfare is about! 09 Sep 2018 09:38 #10116

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Thought you peeps might be interested in this courtesy of the scottishunemployedworkers.net:

scottishunemployedworkers.net/2018/09/09/watch-out-for-workfare/

It seems M&S are now taking people on through this scheme (possibly under the banner of work trials or training) with the same old lies about offering jobs at the end of it. Just remember that any mandated stuff has to be agreed and in writing if you are asked to do similar stuff. Also check your Claimant Commitments regularly for any `added` actions you were not aware of or agreed to do. If it`s not on there, you can`t be held accountable.
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Watch out - Workfare is about! 09 Sep 2018 11:49 #10119

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Sooner or later Everyone claiming Benefits will have to Work [ Unpaid ] a full 35 Hour week,
Only thing stopping this happening is where will the Tory s find 3 Million Jobs,
It will also expose Tory lies about the current Sky High REAL Unemployment rate. :ohmy:
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Watch out - Workfare is about! 10 Sep 2018 14:16 #10129

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Lets hope not Paul. Although on the news this morning they were talking about the four day week and the over 50`s finding work practically impossible, I`m wondering when this shift will come. Something needs to give because the country is changing and our high streets are slowly being eroded. Anyone claiming can`t all hope to find work, yet we are being spoon fed propaganda about how the jobless figures are the lowest in history. I just want to bloody retire, but have years of this worry to endure, as many do.
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Watch out - Workfare is about! 10 Sep 2018 14:36 #10130

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Lets hope not Paul. Although on the news this morning they were talking about the four day week and the over 50`s finding work practically impossible, I`m wondering when this shift will come. Something needs to give because the country is changing and our high streets are slowly being eroded. Anyone claiming can`t all hope to find work, yet we are being spoon fed propaganda about how the jobless figures are the lowest in history. I just want to bloody retire, but have years of this worry to endure, as many do.

im 61 with health issues, no chance of finding a job , but they just brush that off saying im putting up barriers,
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Watch out - Workfare is about! 11 Sep 2018 08:59 #10135

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Ah yes, the barriers we have. Maybe they think employers don`t see chronic (long term) illness, age (50`s or older), or a long work gap history as barriers then? We are literally flogging a dead horse yet they won`t tell us that. Their `job` is to convince us that we CAN work, we CAN find a job and have us all living in fear just to justify their deluded thinktank argument that people must EARN a living.
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Watch out - Workfare is about! 11 Sep 2018 13:56 #10139

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London, I would have a look at your `expected hours` on your CC (claimant commitment) and read this FOI I came across regarding reducing the work and the hours expected IF you have limited mobility or health problems generally:

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/516841/response/1229056/attach/html/3/Annex%202.pdf.html
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I`ve read many similar reports from DWP responses that state anyone can limit the work they are looking for when they have evidence of a health problem, disability and can `agree` (or argue whichever way you interprate it) to your advantage.
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Watch out - Workfare is about! 11 Sep 2018 15:57 #10142

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comply or die wrote:
London, I would have a look at your `expected hours` on your CC (claimant commitment) and read this FOI I came across regarding reducing the work and the hours expected IF you have limited mobility or health problems generally:

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/516841/response/1229056/attach/html/3/Annex%202.pdf.html
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I`ve read many similar reports from DWP responses that state anyone can limit the work they are looking for when they have evidence of a health problem, disability and can `agree` (or argue whichever way you interprate it) to your advantage.

my work agreement is for 16 hours a week, part time,
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Watch out - Workfare is about! 11 Sep 2018 17:15 #10143

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Apologies London 123, I think you have told me this before, I just forgot! But the fact that you lost your ESA and now find yourself having to look for P/T jobs, which I sympathise with as I was in that same position a few years ago when I stupidly claimed JSA while waiting on my appeal to be done, the jobs I saw were few and far between and some only charity work and they didn`t even reply to my application!


Anyone losing their ESA or deciding not to appeal a fit for work decision (which they should ALWAYS do) regardless if the outcome, it`s critical that you still apply your limited activity to the tasks and jobs your work coach asks of you because they MUST be reasonable and fair and justified in your circumstances.
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